In defense of Susan Sarandon, and by extension Jill Stein et. al. ?

[starshine00]

118. my theory based on the kids I argued with on social media

is that the ones that voted nader and stein were Xers and milliennials who were in grade school for the length of the positive administrations of Obama and Clinton (not saying either pres was perfect but certainly better than republican admins) and held some utopian vision that because of some fabled physical law of trajectory things would only continue to get better. The actual law is one of Newton's laws of motion that an object at rest or in motion remains in that state unless acted upon BY AN OUTSIDE FORCE. They truly did not understand the diabolical nature of the right wing and probably many are a bit astonished right now to see the truth playing out before our eyes, with the muslim ban etc. They will be well acquainted with evil before 4 years are out whether under Trump or Pence. The Dakota access pipeline seemed to be a pet issue of theirs and it must have been stunning how quickly Trump reversed that.

then there is the argument that I used to have trouble with but which time has born out to be utterly and completely false due to the fallout from the Iraq war, which is that voting for a 'neoliberal' like Clinton is immoral and they are making a more moral choice to not vote or vote third party. The horrible legacy of ISIS in Iraq and elsewhere and the genocide of the Yazidi people should forever invalidate the argument that there is ever any morality in standing by and letting someone like Bush or Trump get control of the White House...the effects of their disastrous policies last decades and the ultimate horror visited on the Yazidi should prove that there is absolutely nothing moral about abdicating from our duty to keep demonic people from getting control of our military.