Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
70. Right, because any disagreement with you must stem from bad motives.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:16 PM
Feb 2017

I voted for Clinton but I don't assume that anyone who didn't vote for Clinton must wish the country ill or must have been getting paid off by the Kochs or Soros or whatever other boogeyman is conjured up. (I know you didn't allege a payoff in this particular instance but that's a common example of the same sort of reasoning.)

People are complicated. Their decisions, including their political decisions, arise from a multitude of factors. Unless you've invented a mind-reading machine, you have no basis for your smear of a longtime activist who's done a lot of good.

By the way, as to your charge that people like her "prefer the United States being governed by the far right," you might note that she was one of the many Nader 2000 supporters who, in 2004, realized the error of their ways:

Many former supporters, including filmmaker Michael Moore, actress Susan Sarandon, Nader's 2000 running mate Winona LaDuke and 75 of the original "Nader's Raiders" who worked with him in his consumer activist days, pleaded with Nader to drop out of the race. They said the stakes were too high to take a chance that a vote for Nader would help bring about another four years of Bush. (Source: this article from November 2, 2004)


That is not the action of someone who wants a far-right government.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

i call them "career types" . once you have paid attention to a few elections JI7 Feb 2017 #1
I knew she had piss poor judgement when she backed Edwards over Obama in '08 BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #7
She was big on Nadir too. WhiteTara Feb 2017 #64
She's big on getting shit wrong BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #66
It's true and sad. WhiteTara Feb 2017 #67
She's fucked up. madaboutharry Feb 2017 #2
They are "Too Smart" for their Own Good Stallion Feb 2017 #3
If Bernie Sanders had won the presidency... Yavin4 Feb 2017 #4
Exactly, because most likely he'd also have been forced Warpy Feb 2017 #5
That or any other thing Yavin4 Feb 2017 #6
Goldman-Sachs. They always seem to get in the door, no matter who is in charge. nt delisen Feb 2017 #10
Which would indicate 2naSalit Feb 2017 #53
There are competent democrats that work for Goldman Sachs. Blue_true Feb 2017 #21
You are right on lillypaddle Feb 2017 #8
Excellent post JustAnotherGen Feb 2017 #9
Good analysis BainsBane Feb 2017 #11
I watched a few minutes of Sarandon on MSNBC last night Progressive dog Feb 2017 #12
She is rich, doesn't have to worry about Blue_true Feb 2017 #22
On top of being rich, jrthin Feb 2017 #51
I truly dislike Sarandon and her ilk Gothmog Feb 2017 #13
Note Sarandon's HYPOCRISY: She said Hillary's IWR vote disqualified her, but John Edwards ALSO ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #14
gosh I forgot that... anyway you can't expect people like her to be consistent in their views. JHan Feb 2017 #23
You are right, of course Edwards recanted his vote as far back as 2005. Clinton was still defending JCanete Feb 2017 #57
Excellent post, BzaDem. brer cat Feb 2017 #15
The farthest Left and the Right are the same. Never forget that. Then everything msanthrope Feb 2017 #16
No they are not. Not even in the slightest. You should prove this shit before just spouting it. nt JCanete Feb 2017 #31
Welcome to DU. I have nothing to prove, based on my record here. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #33
you mean, you can just say shit without backing it up and hope it sticks? nt JCanete Feb 2017 #34
Again, you feelings on this matter are meaningless Gothmog Feb 2017 #37
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #38
I am a member of the Democratic Party and I reject misguided/silly attacks on the Democratic party Gothmog Feb 2017 #43
I am a member of the Democratic party. As such, I reject any notion that we should JCanete Feb 2017 #45
Have you ever gone to a meeting of the party or a state convention? Gothmog Feb 2017 #47
I appreciate that you are working hard. I just hope you're working for the right things. nt JCanete Feb 2017 #52
So you have not done anything in the real world Gothmog Feb 2017 #55
I am glad you're doing that, and I am far less active, I'm not going to pretend otherwise. But you JCanete Feb 2017 #59
Do you really think that you are debating? Gothmog Feb 2017 #61
Welcome to DU. There's a helpful little search box provided by the administration msanthrope Feb 2017 #41
Excellent...what a fun game! How about I tell you you've proven no such thing, and my refutations JCanete Feb 2017 #46
Like I said....welcome to DU. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #49
Weak parry to a valid point. JudyM Feb 2017 #54
My history proves who I am and who I follow. I'll go toe to toe. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #56
Who cares? melman Feb 2017 #69
NO, you are wrong-BOB types and the far right are the same Gothmog Feb 2017 #36
that was a valuable contribution as always, thank you. nt JCanete Feb 2017 #39
Coming from someone who thinks that their feelings are relevant that is amusing Gothmog Feb 2017 #44
All the most objective and experienced political analysts agree that the far left and far right.... George II Feb 2017 #60
K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #17
I'm more of a 'let's be united' kind of person Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #18
I am not united with her, any more than I am united with Republicans. BzaDem Feb 2017 #20
It is people like Sarandon and Cornell West who ARE the problem. Blue_true Feb 2017 #24
I Do Me. Feb 2017 #27
Left wing sociopathy FlyByNight Feb 2017 #19
Sarandon is a rich ($60 million), White, native born American. Blue_true Feb 2017 #26
Good post. Massive K & R. JHan Feb 2017 #25
Well put. Sarandon needs to go away. (nt) Paladin Feb 2017 #28
Sarandon also supported Nader who gave us Bush Gothmog Feb 2017 #29
Democrats need an active left that challenges them. You simply cannot blame our party's failures to JCanete Feb 2017 #30
Once again, your analysis is totally wrong Gothmog Feb 2017 #35
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #42
It was the fringe idiots like Stein and the BOB morons who gave us trump Gothmog Feb 2017 #58
Are you familiar with the Fairness Doctrine? George II Feb 2017 #62
There are hundreds of millions of people that would be helped tremendously by an HRC presidency. BzaDem Feb 2017 #48
But I just listened to the interview. She didn't ignore the differences between Trump and Clinton. JCanete Feb 2017 #50
"the kinds of things that have been done subtly and via attrition, for decades" BzaDem Feb 2017 #68
Correction: The GOP needs them BainsBane Feb 2017 #63
K&R Jamaal510 Feb 2017 #32
Oh, FFS! Can we PLEASE stop wasting brain space on that waste of brain space? Squinch Feb 2017 #40
..... Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #65
Right, because any disagreement with you must stem from bad motives. Jim Lane Feb 2017 #70
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»People like Susan Sarando...»Reply #70