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karynnj

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25. Can you really see it passing either House?

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:26 AM

Jun 2012

At the moment, no health care bill could pass the House - they passed the Ryan budget that would have cut both Medicare and Medicaid - that's the opposite direction.

In the Senate, name the 7 Republicans who would vote with all the Democrats (including Nelson!).

If you mean next year, it is unlikely that we will even have 53 Democrats - and we could have Majority leader McConnell. It may be that the people you know are more ready for single payer, but what about all the conservative true believers?

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... House Progressives Will Seek Single-Payer Plan If Mandate Goes Down. [View all] kpete Jun 2012 OP

Conyers and Ellison!!! Again! longship Jun 2012 #1

And sadly, Max Baucus will be right there in the Senate BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #2

Given that Bernie Sanders says that there were only 10 or so Senators who would vote for it, karynnj Jun 2012 #24

And there's no reason not to try Scootaloo Jun 2012 #26

As if it could pass even with Baucus. You need 60 votes. So please, enough of that. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #31

The Republicans don't need 60 votes for their bills. So please, enough of that. Leopolds Ghost Jun 2012 #34

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2012 #3

I'd prefer if they said they would seek single payer regardless of the SC's decision. nt chowder66 Jun 2012 #4

^^ This! LeftofObama Jun 2012 #5

tanks! chowder66 Jun 2012 #10

It's about "gnikcuf" time! KansDem Jun 2012 #6

Yes indeed! Plucketeer Jun 2012 #20

k&r a thousand times!!!!! robinlynne Jun 2012 #7

Exercise in futility. DCBob Jun 2012 #8

Ah the Pessimism packaged as Pragmatism wail! Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #36

Spare me the lecture. I'm simply suggesting we focus our effort on something thats doable. DCBob Jun 2012 #40

And every other elected (bought) Democrat will ignore them. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #9

Exactly - one corporate party, two faces. polichick Jun 2012 #17

Um, the REPUBLICANS control the House. Maybe, uh, try bashing them instead. (???) RBInMaine Jun 2012 #30

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #11

I suspected this might happen, because I believed the ACA to be a sort of planned failure. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #12

Can you really see it passing either House? karynnj Jun 2012 #25

Take a look at some polling. A good majority supports Medicare for All Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #37

I've looked at polling, but the relevant group to poll here consists of the members of Congress karynnj Jun 2012 #42

Why seek single payer if Mandate goes down? What a clunky bunch! midnight Jun 2012 #13

If you wish him support, then support him. Calling him clunky is not support. It is unfounded Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #38

Hurray! mckara Jun 2012 #14

Dennis Kucinich was right! TransitJohn Jun 2012 #15

All the more evidence that the mandate will stand, IMO demwing Jun 2012 #16

I doubt that will pass sakabatou Jun 2012 #18

And if it is upheld, they should push for single-payer anyway, state by state under the opt out. SunSeeker Jun 2012 #19

There isnt enough of them. It will never happen. scheming daemons Jun 2012 #21

Are these the same House Progressive who said they wouldn't vote for a bill that didn't include a Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #22

K&R MustBeTheBooz Jun 2012 #23

Would Like Single Payer, But This Court Would Knock It Down Too TomCADem Jun 2012 #27

Only Way This Has Legs... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #28

And it will be an act of futility because a snowball in hell has a better chance of PASSING. However RBInMaine Jun 2012 #29

I'd rather lose doing it right, than win doing it wrong louis c Jun 2012 #32

Lame posturing. Laelth Jun 2012 #33

Agreed, sadly. n/t Leopolds Ghost Jun 2012 #35

Where was their balls when they needed them? Hubert Flottz Jun 2012 #39

Wait...WHO? will be seeking Single-Payer? Not House *leadership*... nt Romulox Jun 2012 #41