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Bluenorthwest

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37. Take a look at some polling. A good majority supports Medicare for All

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:13 AM

Jun 2012

Can you show me any polling in which these 'true believers' of yours show numbers of any meaningful kind? Because simply stating that you think they are out there thinking what you say they think does not cut it.
And frankly, I am as skeptical of those who predict the future with certainty as I am with those who demand that others engage in prognostication to make their points. Let's take this absurd contempt vote against Holder. Yesterday, news reported that as many as 30 Democrats would vote for it. Later in the day it looked like maybe 5 Conservative Democrats. When the vote actually happens, what do you think? Tell me who will vote how. 30? 5? None? Do you think it is possible that yesterday morning that 30 count was possible and the reaction from the nation during the day may have cut down on that number? I do.
http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/Chart_of_Americans_Support

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... House Progressives Will Seek Single-Payer Plan If Mandate Goes Down. [View all] kpete Jun 2012 OP

Conyers and Ellison!!! Again! longship Jun 2012 #1

And sadly, Max Baucus will be right there in the Senate BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #2

Given that Bernie Sanders says that there were only 10 or so Senators who would vote for it, karynnj Jun 2012 #24

And there's no reason not to try Scootaloo Jun 2012 #26

As if it could pass even with Baucus. You need 60 votes. So please, enough of that. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #31

The Republicans don't need 60 votes for their bills. So please, enough of that. Leopolds Ghost Jun 2012 #34

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2012 #3

I'd prefer if they said they would seek single payer regardless of the SC's decision. nt chowder66 Jun 2012 #4

^^ This! LeftofObama Jun 2012 #5

tanks! chowder66 Jun 2012 #10

It's about "gnikcuf" time! KansDem Jun 2012 #6

Yes indeed! Plucketeer Jun 2012 #20

k&r a thousand times!!!!! robinlynne Jun 2012 #7

Exercise in futility. DCBob Jun 2012 #8

Ah the Pessimism packaged as Pragmatism wail! Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #36

Spare me the lecture. I'm simply suggesting we focus our effort on something thats doable. DCBob Jun 2012 #40

And every other elected (bought) Democrat will ignore them. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #9

Exactly - one corporate party, two faces. polichick Jun 2012 #17

Um, the REPUBLICANS control the House. Maybe, uh, try bashing them instead. (???) RBInMaine Jun 2012 #30

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #11

I suspected this might happen, because I believed the ACA to be a sort of planned failure. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #12

Can you really see it passing either House? karynnj Jun 2012 #25

Take a look at some polling. A good majority supports Medicare for All Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #37

I've looked at polling, but the relevant group to poll here consists of the members of Congress karynnj Jun 2012 #42

Why seek single payer if Mandate goes down? What a clunky bunch! midnight Jun 2012 #13

If you wish him support, then support him. Calling him clunky is not support. It is unfounded Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #38

Hurray! mckara Jun 2012 #14

Dennis Kucinich was right! TransitJohn Jun 2012 #15

All the more evidence that the mandate will stand, IMO demwing Jun 2012 #16

I doubt that will pass sakabatou Jun 2012 #18

And if it is upheld, they should push for single-payer anyway, state by state under the opt out. SunSeeker Jun 2012 #19

There isnt enough of them. It will never happen. scheming daemons Jun 2012 #21

Are these the same House Progressive who said they wouldn't vote for a bill that didn't include a Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #22

K&R MustBeTheBooz Jun 2012 #23

Would Like Single Payer, But This Court Would Knock It Down Too TomCADem Jun 2012 #27

Only Way This Has Legs... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #28

And it will be an act of futility because a snowball in hell has a better chance of PASSING. However RBInMaine Jun 2012 #29

I'd rather lose doing it right, than win doing it wrong louis c Jun 2012 #32

Lame posturing. Laelth Jun 2012 #33

Agreed, sadly. n/t Leopolds Ghost Jun 2012 #35

Where was their balls when they needed them? Hubert Flottz Jun 2012 #39

Wait...WHO? will be seeking Single-Payer? Not House *leadership*... nt Romulox Jun 2012 #41