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Jim Beard

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22. I was co-mingling, suddenly trying to make two points with less words. :)

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This Whole Discussion Around Free Speech and Milo Yiannopoulos is Causing a Rift on the Left [View all] DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2017 OP

The issue about protest and Yiannopoulos concerned _violent_ protest. The threat of violence... PoliticAverse Feb 2017 #1

Milo is an attention whore like Ann Coulter, he is best ignored or mocked mercilessly Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #2

That's correct Yupster Feb 2017 #29

yep he's an internet creation starshine00 Feb 2017 #63

I sure hope he wafts into obscurity... he doesn't even have anything interesting to say, from Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #79

no, it wasn't a good showing starshine00 Feb 2017 #81

I agree... freedom of speech is fine but it's still wrong to use it to say stupid hateful things Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #87

Yep nt d_r Feb 2017 #76

This whole thing is a gigantic distraction. Initech Feb 2017 #3

+1000 Pachamama Feb 2017 #51

True that Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #66

Democracy doesn't rule the world, you better get that thru your head. hollowdweller Feb 2017 #4

he is like andy kaufman from the right dembotoz Feb 2017 #5

Kauffman UT_democrat Feb 2017 #32

What exactly is "dangerous" speech? ---Acknowledge it? How about defining it? Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #6

Dangerous speech is very well defined actually DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2017 #11

One person's opinion is not an ironclad objective standard, but-- okay, lets break that down: Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #17

I disagree DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2017 #24

Actually, that was Washington State. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #26

The second amendment guarantees Freedom of Speech, and what about Religion? Jim Beard Feb 2017 #20

You mean 1st Amendment, I think Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #21

I was co-mingling, suddenly trying to make two points with less words. :) Jim Beard Feb 2017 #22

Do you agree that the right to protest is also protected speech? DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2017 #25

Of course. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #73

Fuck all Speech Prohibitionists. MicaelS Feb 2017 #88

It blows me away. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #91

My 2 cents meadowlander Feb 2017 #7

Mahr had Yanno on his show because the two are kindred spirits and he knows it. kcr Feb 2017 #8

Maher is also long-time pals with Ann Coulter, who is on his show all the time. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #12

Laughing and agreeing with him sure showed him! n/t kcr Feb 2017 #16

If you don't want to see right-wing asshats, you definitely shouldn't watch his show. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #18

They have agreements on the issue, and when we look like we are trying to shut down speech, we do JCanete Feb 2017 #58

probably sees his younger self in him starshine00 Feb 2017 #64

No, not really... Milo's an asshole ...we see that ... we'll be ok uponit7771 Feb 2017 #9

Right. Why anyone would let such a troll Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #13

Protesting Yiannopoulos or anyone else is completely legitimate. WillowTree Feb 2017 #10

i saw him on Maher starshine00 Feb 2017 #68

Nah no rift, we can call an a-hole an a-hole. Best line from Larry WILMORE: UTUSN Feb 2017 #14

That punctured Milo's self love balloon a little bit flamingdem Feb 2017 #83

that was awesome, Wilmore was a great foil starshine00 Feb 2017 #84

Hate speech is not free speech. roamer65 Feb 2017 #15

Oh for fuck's sake. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #19

So.. quick question: Can people in Canada watch "Real Time"? Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #23

Fuck nebulous 'hate speech' idiocracy. X_Digger Feb 2017 #28

And there is no right to not be challenged based on your bigoted views DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2017 #39

It's not up to the state to do that challenging. The answer to bad speech is more speech. n/t X_Digger Feb 2017 #80

Actually not. J_William_Ryan Feb 2017 #40

Milo seemed like a halfwit on Maher starshine00 Feb 2017 #85

I am all for free speech. But it is extremely irresponsible of people like Maher to give AgadorSparticus Feb 2017 #27

He probably got good ratings Yupster Feb 2017 #31

I didn't watch it. People don't have to watch it. This is on Maher giving him a platform. AgadorSparticus Feb 2017 #99

I think it went really well starshine00 Feb 2017 #69

"Free speech" means I can call that hate-speecher Milo asshole a fucking asshole and 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #30

Only if they give you access to the public airwaves will it matter still_one Feb 2017 #43

That does not change my point. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #47

nor does it invalidate my response still_one Feb 2017 #48

I'm agreeing with the OP's point that hate speech needs to be called out! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #52

I am a Cal alumni and think Milo should have been heavily demonstrated but non-violently PufPuf23 Feb 2017 #33

I don't have an issue with it Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #34

+1 Vinnie From Indy Feb 2017 #61

See Signature Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2017 #35

Its important to remember J_William_Ryan Feb 2017 #36

there is no rift and no question of freedom of speech grantcart Feb 2017 #37

Maybe if democrats could gain control of the Government njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #38

Did the government stop Yiannopoulos from speaking? Caliman73 Feb 2017 #41

Berkeley should have never allowed him to book the event. njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #46

Jeremy Scahill perhaps has said it best still_one Feb 2017 #42

All free speech is dangerous to someone. HassleCat Feb 2017 #44

The Problem with Milo Is Not Free Speech Leith Feb 2017 #45

Is he really gay? njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #50

He Says He Is Leith Feb 2017 #53

Is there anything republicans won't do for money. njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #57

No, that buffoon is not causing a rift although it's interesting that you decide to do an OP KittyWampus Feb 2017 #49

Rift may be a little strong of a word to use... DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2017 #72

15 douches showed up outside a mosque in Toronto last night to protest applegrove Feb 2017 #54

Maybe among internet Warriors. JI7 Feb 2017 #55

Russia. dchill Feb 2017 #56

Imagine how many millions of lives would have been saved Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #59

One, comparing this, as Larry Wilmore put it, "little douchey ass" to Hitler is inane. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #70

Bullshit. Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #86

that's anti-Bovine hate speech Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #92

As are your views. former9thward Feb 2017 #93

by who? Who gets to make the determination about who is Hitler? Do not tell me you don't see JCanete Feb 2017 #89

Not all speech is free speech, not all speech is protected speech Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #90

What Hitler was saying shouldn't JCanete Feb 2017 #94

Your understanding of the 1st Amendment is woefully wrong. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #95

Just a thought DonaldsRump Feb 2017 #60

+10 Vinnie From Indy Feb 2017 #62

We're in agreement that violent protests are counter-productive DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2017 #71

Indeed if there hadn't been the violent protest virtually no one would be talking about Milo Y.... PoliticAverse Feb 2017 #74

he definitely did some digging last night starshine00 Feb 2017 #82

Protesting a speaker is fine. Preventing a speaker from speaking is not OK aikoaiko Feb 2017 #65

He is not even a US Citizen, send him back home to Britain. Historic NY Feb 2017 #67

He's not worth dividing over BainsBane Feb 2017 #75

I've heard from a lot of people who have said they were curious what all the fuss was about Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #97

I think he's trolling everyone BainsBane Feb 2017 #100

Freedom of speech is a two way street Soxfan58 Feb 2017 #77

Milo went on Bill Maher and he was told to go fuck himself at least 3 times. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #96

This I'll defend your right to free speech but best believe I'll refute it if I disagree. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #98

Don't care for Maher even though I agree with him on some points Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2017 #78

He's going to end up causing a bigger rift on the right JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #101

they already rationalized pussygrabbing poli3 Feb 2017 #102

ah, yes, but Milo is gay JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #104

He's going to end up causing a bigger rift on the right. LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #105

He can speak, and we can PROTEST. nt Lisa0825 Feb 2017 #103

He's pissed the right off now BainsBane Feb 2017 #106

I think that is wishful thinking. JNelson6563 Feb 2017 #107

I just watched HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #108