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Agschmid

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5. It wasn't an appeal based on issues in some ways... at least IMHO.

Mon Feb 20, 2017, 07:51 PM

Feb 2017

Once they decided to vote for Trump they decided the issues didn't matter, or they really believed that there was a difference between parties.

If there is any good from a Trump/Republican controlled administration it will paint a clear picture of what that actually means to the average Joe or Joanna.

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Why Did We Lose And How Can We Win? [View all] CitizenZero Feb 2017 OP

Quite a few reasons, not just one. Agschmid Feb 2017 #1

I Agree CitizenZero Feb 2017 #2

but they voted for other republicans that supported free trade over dems like strickland JI7 Feb 2017 #4

It wasn't an appeal based on issues in some ways... at least IMHO. Agschmid Feb 2017 #5

can we just admit it was racism ? they hated blm, refugees , immigrants JI7 Feb 2017 #7

Except all those racists voted for Obama twice. EL34x4 Feb 2017 #11

no they didn't. JI7 Feb 2017 #12

This is flat out made up. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #20

Barack Obama's pollster disagrees. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #22

Very Good Article CitizenZero Feb 2017 #28

Racism And Xenophobia CitizenZero Feb 2017 #13

They have been voting republican sInce civil rights JI7 Feb 2017 #14

I See Your Point CitizenZero Feb 2017 #17

the comey letter played a huge role JI7 Feb 2017 #21

The Comey Letter Was A Problem CitizenZero Feb 2017 #25

she was ahead before it JI7 Feb 2017 #26

OK CitizenZero Feb 2017 #30

And she wound up ahead by almost as much afterwards... regnaD kciN Feb 2017 #53

Which Comey letter? former9thward Feb 2017 #45

fuck trump JI7 Feb 2017 #47

A whole lot of it was exactly that, unfortunately. Agschmid Feb 2017 #24

Obama never would have won if that were true. Motown_Johnny Feb 2017 #60

pro trade republicans did the best and feingold and strickland did worse than clinton JI7 Feb 2017 #62

Trump's trade narrative was tied to his xenophobic rhetoric... JHan Feb 2017 #15

I Agree CitizenZero Feb 2017 #19

"Most Americans see trade as an economic opportunity..." regnaD kciN Feb 2017 #54

I agree it would be a tough sell.. JHan Feb 2017 #65

That's an old story full of finger pointing and dissembling. lapucelle Feb 2017 #3

good point. +++++++ JHan Feb 2017 #16

lost because of Russians. triron Feb 2017 #6

How? regnaD kciN Feb 2017 #55

I think it's impossible to know the depths of our loss... NCTraveler Feb 2017 #8

In 2010 when Jennifer Granholm, Dem, left office Michigan elected Republican Rick Snyder delisen Feb 2017 #9

and same with wisconsin JI7 Feb 2017 #10

Exactly...and Florida as well. regnaD kciN Feb 2017 #56

Year 2010: Red Tide Swept Great Lakes States. Republicans Gained Control CNN report delisen Feb 2017 #18

We Need A Counter Movement To The Tea Party CitizenZero Feb 2017 #23

went don't you explain why Feingold lost first and what JI7 Feb 2017 #27

Feingold CitizenZero Feb 2017 #32

This!! Dracaena Feb 2017 #31

Also CitizenZero Feb 2017 #35

Critical, as 25 states are now under top-to-bottom Republican control. VOX Feb 2017 #39

Thanks For Posting That CitizenZero Feb 2017 #42

You're welcome. And as New York is to you, California is to me. VOX Feb 2017 #58

Thanks. Similar to articles I posted months ago. Have we learned anything? elleng Feb 2017 #29

I could list many reasons, but many would not like to hear it... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #33

I believe you are right. n/t phylny Feb 2017 #34

I have VERY little sympathy with that rationalization... regnaD kciN Feb 2017 #57

Evidence? CitizenZero Feb 2017 #36

First, I did not write 'voter fraud'...that is a republican meme. Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #37

Election Fraud CitizenZero Feb 2017 #38

Definitions: Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #40

Very Good Info CitizenZero Feb 2017 #43

Very poor info. former9thward Feb 2017 #46

Well CitizenZero Feb 2017 #48

The Comey letter, etc, is stuff that happens in every election. former9thward Feb 2017 #63

The unadjusted exit polls that conspiracy theorists use are idiotic mythology Feb 2017 #49

The More Information CitizenZero Feb 2017 #52

Good try... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #67

We *HAVE* to start at the local level. Initech Feb 2017 #41

This is where I'm at... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #44

Yeah we can talk about GOTV'ing all we want. Initech Feb 2017 #50

Because the Republicans, Faux and others made wild claims about doc03 Feb 2017 #51

We lost because of PA, MI and WI (and OH) .... Motown_Johnny Feb 2017 #59

Because they didn't count all the early votes. ucrdem Feb 2017 #61

Multiple reasons alarimer Feb 2017 #64

Sad that we have so many hardcore racists and misogynists in our midst... CTyankee Feb 2017 #66

Enthusiasm.... Baconator Feb 2017 #68