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cthulu2016

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31. You are right and it is a legitimate topic for discussion

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:08 PM

Dec 2011

The choice of a VP is a primarily political decision made at the convention.

A president is free to switch running mates at his pleasure. (Like FDR switched Wallace for Truman in 1944)

Putting Hillary on the ticket would garner net positve votes versus the status quo. (The alternate view is so politically uninformed that it's hard to believe anyone would voice it, but hundreds have. And some of the most vociferous are self-proclaimed pragmatists, which is what makes it particularly odd.)

2012 will be a much closer election than 2008 and any net gain of votes is desirable.

Not everything that would gain net votes is desirable, but winning an election is generally better than losing.

Strategic political decisions are always legitimate fodder for a political discussion board.

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The win-win of a Obama-Hillary ticket. [View all] RandySF Dec 2011 OP

Please drop it. elleng Dec 2011 #1

Why? The OP has clearly put a lot of thought into this. Nye Bevan Dec 2011 #3

I agree its a discussion board, elleng Dec 2011 #5

I think it is probably a done deal, and I don't think that Joe Biden is very JDPriestly Dec 2011 #19

I don't know. I don't know that it is the BEST idea. But I don't hate it either. musicblind Dec 2011 #9

Give it up Warpy Dec 2011 #2

When she ran for the Senate from NY customerserviceguy Dec 2011 #28

Personally, I don't like to see the same surnames on the presidential ticket shraby Dec 2011 #4

When did the Clintons do that? n/t Control-Z Dec 2011 #13

We had a Bill Clinton for president, we had Hilary Clinton as a presidential candidate. shraby Dec 2011 #32

So, really, it never happened. Control-Z Dec 2011 #38

Clinton as VP and Biden as SoS would be nice, but boxman15 Dec 2011 #6

President Obama has already asked Biden to run with him in 2012 and Joe said: YES. Tx4obama Dec 2011 #7

Good. Tx4Obama. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #20

Maybe the recent Gallup 'most admired' poll has spurred on the VP talk (?) Tx4obama Dec 2011 #21

please be careful what you wish for. thoughts have momentum. marasinghe Dec 2011 #8

Obama asked Biden MONTHS ago. Biden accepted. What is the problem with this? CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #10

Not going to happen. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #11

The win-win of Hide Thread. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2011 #12

DUzy grantcart Dec 2011 #15

Trying to get in right under the wire for "Goofiest idea of 2011", apparently Warren DeMontague Dec 2011 #14

I doubt Hillary would go for this but at the same time quinnox Dec 2011 #16

I prefer Joe to Hillary. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #17

It will not happen because she does not want it. MADem Dec 2011 #18

Btw, there is a Joe Biden group here on DU3 - link below :) Tx4obama Dec 2011 #22

Thanks for pointing it out, Tx4! elleng Dec 2011 #29

No. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #23

Russ Feingold would be better, imo. RainDog Dec 2011 #24

We already have a ticket. bowens43 Dec 2011 #25

Why would it make such a big difference? treestar Dec 2011 #26

Hillary Clinton got over 18 million votes. juajen Dec 2011 #36

I'm a woman and I'm not that angry treestar Dec 2011 #37

"Hillary fanatics" are half of the party or did you choose to forget that point? Beacool Dec 2011 #41

I think if Obama were going to pick a new VP (which he isn't) justiceischeap Dec 2011 #27

New rule: ProSense Dec 2011 #30

You are right and it is a legitimate topic for discussion cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #31

The effort to divide Democrats and depress Dem turnout continues .... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #33

who starts this kind of nonsense? Whisp Dec 2011 #34

Sorry, all the reasons she was not picked the first time around still exist Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #35

Share what you are smoking rustydog Dec 2011 #39

I guess the Clinton folks never really got over it did they? DefenseLawyer Dec 2011 #40