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112. Wo! It really takes WORK to sort out truth from falsehood.

Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:28 PM

Feb 2017

It's even harder in this Trump era when virtually any joke could have actually been Tweeted by Trump!!!!! Not as a joke.

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The "NO's" have it...MPs debate refusing Donald Trump a state visit to Britain [View all] Miles Archer Feb 2017 OP

And it sounded like a very resounding NO! The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #1

I think I heard somewhere that the vote is not binding... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #2

If he visits, it will be downgraded, not a State Visit, and he won't get to meet the Queen.. HipChick Feb 2017 #4

Not sure that Parliament has that authority... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #8

I imagine the Queen has the final say, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #12

I've read Prime Minister and Queen... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #22

I want him to go !! SCantiGOP Feb 2017 #93

They mentioned in the video that State Visit requests originate from a Committee not from Parliament Miles Archer Feb 2017 #23

And the Queen Liberalagogo Feb 2017 #42

No kidding. CottonBear Feb 2017 #49

One MP mentioned that Prince Charles probably couldn't be involved in a state visit with Trump dflprincess Feb 2017 #115

i dunno. perhaps she was going to have her sword at the ready in case mopinko Feb 2017 #53

Shake her hand? No, he'd move in for a hug, and Ilsa Feb 2017 #89

arm around the shoulder, hand on the boob. mopinko Feb 2017 #90

Hell, they ought to let him meet Prince Phillip.... MADem Feb 2017 #51

This! BlueMTexpat Feb 2017 #60

Just imagine... Fritz Walter Feb 2017 #69

In Prince Phillip not fooled Feb 2017 #91

... Luciferous Feb 2017 #98

Lockerbie "bombing"? cwydro Feb 2017 #125

You must be young...? MADem Feb 2017 #128

I understand the aircraft was destroyed by a bomb. cwydro Feb 2017 #133

Do the google on the phrase "Lockerbie bombing." MADem Feb 2017 #134

The Queen doesn't want to shake hands with a P_ _ _ y grabber. nikibatts Feb 2017 #63

They exposed Trump for what he is and gave him a resounding thumbs down Jarqui Feb 2017 #3

Wow. underpants Feb 2017 #5

If the PM goes along with the visit exboyfil Feb 2017 #32

YAY! Let's all move there! nt Laffy Kat Feb 2017 #6

They have definitely voted NO? ailsagirl Feb 2017 #7

Just watched about two hours of live video at the link in my OP... Miles Archer Feb 2017 #13

I had it on as well. Vinnie From Indy Feb 2017 #33

the man's name? ultronvision Feb 2017 #124

Could it be this one? Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #126

Love those Scots! ailsagirl Feb 2017 #130

And they particularly detest Donald Trump Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #131

Love those people! ailsagirl Feb 2017 #132

If/when he visits, Parliament will NOT be in session--thus, he'll be the first leader to NOT address MADem Feb 2017 #129

Is this confirmed ? n/t ??????? TubbersUK Feb 2017 #9

I heard the vote with my own ears on the livestream of the debate. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #14

Thanks n/t TubbersUK Feb 2017 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author TubbersUK Feb 2017 #21

I believe it was sort of commitee vote -not the entire Parliament. confusing for sure riversedge Feb 2017 #79

You're right. Native Feb 2017 #92

The debate was in the House of Commons. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #94

It was if you watched the video. Miles Archer Feb 2017 #18

Thanks n/t TubbersUK Feb 2017 #26

It's not their decision. MADem Feb 2017 #135

Trump got dumped. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #10

With some heavy-duty BRMCOne Feb 2017 #81

Yay, happy Monday everyone! :D Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #11

Love the cuteness. Spread the love. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #20

It is cute, isn't it? Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #28

I'm normally on my phone when posting. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #37

Happy peeResident's Day! Fritz Walter Feb 2017 #73

That's simply awesome ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #15

Good now BLOTUS 45 and his alt-reich entourage will not stain workinclasszero Feb 2017 #16

They'd better be careful meadowlark5 Feb 2017 #17

Man. How humiliating is that? dalton99a Feb 2017 #24

BBC hasn't reported this yet still_one Feb 2017 #25

still nothing on the BBC etherealtruth Feb 2017 #29

At least BBC.com doesn't have it there still_one Feb 2017 #31

That's my go to as well ... I have been "nonchalantly" checking my phone during a meeting etherealtruth Feb 2017 #35

WOOT WOOT! This resistance is WORLD WIDE! Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #27

Ouchy. moondust Feb 2017 #30

Hey, remember when the UK was our friend and Russia was our enemy? progressoid Feb 2017 #34

Oooo that's gonna leave a mark... Still In Wisconsin Feb 2017 #36

ha barbtries Feb 2017 #38

This isn't dis-inviting him from the U.K. but from addressing Parliament, right? randome Feb 2017 #39

no & no Jarqui Feb 2017 #43

So he just gets to go there and wander around? murielm99 Feb 2017 #68

I don't know precisely what they may have planned for him. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #74

bwahahahahahaaa love the brits spanone Feb 2017 #40

PROTAZOAN! ignorant! collasal EGO! the smart BURNS. pansypoo53219 Feb 2017 #41

"The power of the presidency is enormous but the intellect of the presidency is protozoan" Maraya1969 Feb 2017 #120

Tonight at 3am Eastern: Liberalagogo Feb 2017 #44

Is this real? "Tonight?" ??? LAS14 Feb 2017 #83

Its fake, like so much on the internet. former9thward Feb 2017 #85

Tweets like that are very easy to fake. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #88

Or you can go to Liberalagogo Feb 2017 #107

Wo! LAS14 Feb 2017 #111

Wo! It really takes WORK to sort out truth from falsehood. LAS14 Feb 2017 #112

I believe that's known as Poe's Law: Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #113

It's non-binding. LAS14 Feb 2017 #121

The UK Parliament DID NOT VOTE against a Donald Trump visit... brooklynite Feb 2017 #45

Thank you!!! It is so hard to track info down while working, I appreciate you posting this etherealtruth Feb 2017 #48

That's correct (see my post below explaining what did happen). Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #62

The Queen didn't want to have to fake illness Generic Other Feb 2017 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author pkdu Feb 2017 #47

OMG. How embarrassing...for HIM! Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #50

there's someone with a placard at a UK protest that says "Hair Hitler" sunonmars Feb 2017 #52

It should have read, "Hair Furor." Than you. n/t W Mousie Feb 2017 #122

Spoke to a friend in the UK. She said verbal votes don't count appleannie1943 Feb 2017 #54

Many references were made today to the "Greek Chorus" of protesters outside. Miles Archer Feb 2017 #57

Your friend is correct on the first point. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #65

Trump is known as never letting go of a grudge . Because the Brits will Enoki33 Feb 2017 #55

England, i am still mad at you over Brexit, but DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #56

Haaaa!!!! louis-t Feb 2017 #58

How nice would it be if British Customs The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #59

NO. Parliament didn't do that. You might want to add a qualifier to the OP. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #61

thank you. misinformation isn't helpful. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #64

You're welcome. I don't think it was deliberate misinformation, Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #70

Some con on DI orangecrush Feb 2017 #75

All we can do is try to keep on our guard Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #78

but... even the link revealed no vote yet. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #82

Yeah, there's no headline at the link to bear out the post title at all. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #84

The power of positive thinking apparently only works for Twump. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #110

Thank you. It was clearly just a committee and not all of Parliament, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #101

No, it WASN'T a committee. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #102

OK, but it looked like not all of Commons was there, so can they have debates The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #103

The Commons is often relatively deserted Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #104

OK, thanks. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #105

It was procedural. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #106

Got it. The vote has to happen but the outcome isn't binding. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #108

Yeah, I think it was worth having! Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #109

K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2017 #66

Unfortunately, it's primarily theatre as it has no clout to ban arthritisR_US Feb 2017 #67

Think of all the money this saves the American taxpayer Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #71

Whoops, gotta love live UK tv.... sunonmars Feb 2017 #72

Damn. Has this ever happened before? What a crazy ass our President is. C Moon Feb 2017 #76

Please correct orangecrush Feb 2017 #77

there was a vote--but it was some committe voting. Confusing for all riversedge Feb 2017 #80

There was no vote on a state visit which is what the OP said. former9thward Feb 2017 #87

and that is why the bbc.com or any other major news outlet is NOT reporting it still_one Feb 2017 #95

Yes, there was a vote. Miles Archer Feb 2017 #97

The vote was a voice vote that just confirmed the debate had taken place. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #99

Get Out WomanWhoRoars Feb 2017 #86

. Rex Feb 2017 #96

The British have always been on guard against fascism. Capn Sunshine Feb 2017 #100

CSPAN is airing the debate now dflprincess Feb 2017 #114

It's a House of Commons debate, not a committee. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #116

Thank you dflprincess Feb 2017 #117

No worries. Denzil_DC Feb 2017 #118

Rest assured I didn't feel jumped on dflprincess Feb 2017 #119

Wherever trumpo goes...people should turn their back to him. Tikki Feb 2017 #123

The UK does not like trump either Gothmog Feb 2017 #127