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wcast

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:50 PM Feb 2017

The reason why middle America, and rural America, voted for Trump is simple. [View all]

So today, I was talking with a fellow teacher who is considering retiring. She has to make a choice to buy insurance at the beginning of her retirement for a year, or wait until the year or so before she hits medicare as she is entitled to some years of insurance as part of her retirement. This was a real dilemma for her as she wasn't sure if she should wait until competition brought down the prices. I asked her what she was talking about and she mentioned competition via buying insurance across state lines. I told her that they only way that brought competition down was when certain states would allow substandard insurance to be sold at a cheap price, but it would only include 2 band-aids and a cotton swab. Real insurance, the kind she would need and depend on, would be more expensive. I likened it to credit cards and how they are issued across state lines from states that have poor consumer protections. I'm sure she still didn't fully understand but she stopped talking.

This is the cold hard truth, and the reason that many of the "Why Did We Lose" posts fail to understand. They really are not educated or informed on the issues and when they get their news, likely from Fox or RW radio, they only hear short messages repeated over and over again with no substance. Here on DU, we are all informed, which is why we have difficulty understanding why anyone would vote against their best interest. These people don't realize they have done that. And sadly, they may never no matter what.

We can improve our message and actually focus on the working man, but in the end, these people will still consume news the way they do now and still won't accept the message that the politicians they vote for don't represent them.

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True! a reflection of failing economics OVERALL kiers Feb 2017 #1
She wants to move to Florida. wcast Feb 2017 #3
This is why Dems need to contest every election in the U.S. no matter if we win or lose. Yavin4 Feb 2017 #2
I never thought of this but yes! I also think if they start putting up a bunch of fake news sites Maraya1969 Feb 2017 #4
And not to re-hash the most recent election... Merlot Feb 2017 #8
Also, when Republican policies fail, and they will... Yavin4 Feb 2017 #9
and when a Republican falls due to scandal Qutzupalotl Feb 2017 #12
Don't take that one for granted. The MESSAGING needs to improve on our side. HUGELY. calimary Feb 2017 #40
Agreed and it's not like there aren't enough liberals... Volaris Feb 2017 #20
Not just the federal elections, but state and local ones as well. Yavin4 Feb 2017 #35
Indeed, nil desperandum Feb 2017 #41
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #33
Many are racist and sexist....ignorance and fear likely spread via Fox, 4Chan et al. CousinIT Feb 2017 #5
I agree with that also. wcast Feb 2017 #6
I remember one of the Town Halls during the Democratic Blue_true Feb 2017 #7
I'm missing something here. blue neen Feb 2017 #10
She doesn't get enough to get her to medicare, only a few years. wcast Feb 2017 #11
Most of the teachers I know have a good understanding of their benefits. blue neen Feb 2017 #14
Don't overthink it. It's pure ANTI-INTELLECTUALISM Freelancer Feb 2017 #13
Yes! Thank you. Duppers Feb 2017 #42
Ooo ooo I know why NightWatcher Feb 2017 #15
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #16
Sigh . . . they ARE stupid, racist credulous morons. I grew up KingCharlemagne Feb 2017 #17
Are You Sure That You Heard Democrats Say Those Things? Leith Feb 2017 #19
Here's a whole thread with 154 recs progree Feb 2017 #26
I didn't run for office JustAnotherGen Feb 2017 #39
Russia is grateful to you for your vote for Jill Stein. Firebrand Gary Feb 2017 #25
You make good points, but nothing this momentous or of this magnitude is simple. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #18
But they don't learn from their mistakes. milestogo Feb 2017 #21
Amen... 2 KGOP presidents in my life time and two horrible economy for the middle class uponit7771 Feb 2017 #37
It seems to have a lot to do with knowledge. lancelyons Feb 2017 #22
dems can destroy the modern gop by ending the biggest mistake in political history certainot Feb 2017 #23
+1, we need big money to back those channels uponit7771 Feb 2017 #38
They voted for him because he supports a Muslim ban and deportation of certain people JI7 Feb 2017 #24
If she's nearing retirement age Abq_Sarah Feb 2017 #27
I am of another mind. no_hypocrisy Feb 2017 #28
+1000 wcast Feb 2017 #32
Trump's personality sucks too. Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2017 #36
But really, there are more of us than them. We need to ALL vote for Dem candidates no matter what nikibatts Feb 2017 #29
The selling across state lines is a pile of BS for lots of reasons, but many lie with the Vinca Feb 2017 #30
I have a different theory TNLib Feb 2017 #31
The other problem is that they are not informed, but they think they are Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2017 #34
+100 Duppers Feb 2017 #43
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