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In reply to the discussion: Why Did We Lose And How Can We Win? [View all]I know a lot of us want the Russian connection to sink Trump. So do I, but I think there's a jump between the case that "Trump should be removed from office because he's beholden to a foreign power" and "Trump only won because the Russians helped him."
Because, in truth, what did the Russians do? Deploy an army of hackers to dig up unfavorable information about HRC and disseminate it? That just means they did a great job of "oppo research," which is something most campaigns have people of their own to do.
To me, saying that the Russians were responsible for the election outcome requires proving that the Russian hackers, say, manipulated the voting process to falsify the returns. And, so far, that's something that hasn't been proven.
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but they voted for other republicans that supported free trade over dems like strickland
JI7
Feb 2017
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pro trade republicans did the best and feingold and strickland did worse than clinton
JI7
Feb 2017
#62
In 2010 when Jennifer Granholm, Dem, left office Michigan elected Republican Rick Snyder
delisen
Feb 2017
#9
Year 2010: Red Tide Swept Great Lakes States. Republicans Gained Control CNN report
delisen
Feb 2017
#18