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Ligyron

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33. Good addiction treatment center can at least de-tox opiate addicts safely.

Tue Feb 21, 2017, 12:29 PM

Feb 2017

But their "recovery" pretty much involves everyone agreeing to believe in some supernatural entity assisting them. It's usually a 12 step program which could have been gotten free almost anywhere

But, hey- whatever gets you through the night. Now, group therapy in aftercare truly is helpful in aiding folks to cope with their problems but honestly, why they can't just rely on science in life is beyond me. Giving credit to the supernatural for what the folks themselves have accomplished, often with the help of their human friends, greatly diminishes their worth and accomplishments as human being, IMHO.

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All The Addiction Commercials [View all] ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 OP

It's all about $$$$$. When the rich kids are addicted there's a pot of gold at the end of the road. Vinca Feb 2017 #1

That Sounds About Right, Vinca ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #4

Yes. That's exactly what I think. Vinca Feb 2017 #6

rich kids? On Long Island, it is an epidemic and it's not "rich kids". KittyWampus Feb 2017 #12

You think the "treatment" centers are going to help those who can't pay???? Vinca Feb 2017 #34

The Human Services people I know are well organized with multiple other groups KittyWampus Feb 2017 #35

I live in NH, the epicenter of the epidemic. Vinca Feb 2017 #36

Human Services isn't charity. It's local, state, county government. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #39

This thread isn't about government agencies, it's about for profit outfits. Vinca Feb 2017 #47

Thanks for responding. Now I understand what you are saying. Now that there are wealthy families KittyWampus Feb 2017 #60

Exactly forthemiddle Feb 2017 #57

I like how they go back to having jobs MountCleaners Feb 2017 #67

You are not the only one who has noticed that. lunasun Feb 2017 #2

grab those insurance dollars quickly. nt irisblue Feb 2017 #3

Yes, before coverage for addiction, i.e., mental health is gone. Ligyron Feb 2017 #20

What? Legalize everything? Oh c'mon now. Foo Fighter Feb 2017 #64

That could become a problem. Ligyron Feb 2017 #65

Thanks for the info. Foo Fighter Feb 2017 #70

I think we'll go to great lengths to avoid a "war" with white people (White myself) ck4829 Feb 2017 #5

Behavioral Health is NOT treated the same as physical health... duhneece Feb 2017 #7

you know what is proven to reduce rates of opiate addiction? Legalized cannabis. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #8

But if they can't sell us as many opiates, that will crater sales of the Snarkoleptic Feb 2017 #9

I've had enough problems with my teeth to know that there are reasons for pain meds Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #49

Yeah, This! RobinA Feb 2017 #68

Yes BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #10

I think the race depends on the channel you're watching. Nt retrowire Feb 2017 #11

POC Don't Watch ESPN? ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #26

....not what I meant retrowire Feb 2017 #28

I remember during Breaking Bad Mendocino Feb 2017 #30

Gotcha ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #31

Implying rather than infer. LanternWaste Feb 2017 #38

Thank you for this, sincerely. Nt retrowire Feb 2017 #41

If they showed African-American adddicts, they would be dismissed as a "black problem." Nitram Feb 2017 #13

Yep. Where I Was Going. ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #27

Yeah they pretty much are snake oil salesman. Initech Feb 2017 #14

Addiction rate in Red states is over the top randr Feb 2017 #15

Bill Maher made this point a couple of weeks ago. Initech Feb 2017 #40

I think the rurals and the white-flighters .. ananda Feb 2017 #16

Places where there's nothing to do but drink or do drugs I'm sure that happens a lot. Initech Feb 2017 #22

Because I don't own a TV I see almost no commercials PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2017 #17

It is an epidemic. SansACause Feb 2017 #18

Yankees too Dem2 Feb 2017 #23

I'll Acknowledge My Perception Of Epidemic Is Different Than Yours ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #25

Yes, we had 7 OD's last week. Ligyron Feb 2017 #29

What do you mean fake doctor? He has a stethoscope. A STETHOSCOPE, I tell you! Iggo Feb 2017 #19

Well, Silly Me! ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #24

No shit, huh. Iggo Feb 2017 #32

because -insurance- will pay for treatment instead of the Doctors who knew the billions of tablets Sunlei Feb 2017 #21

Good addiction treatment center can at least de-tox opiate addicts safely. Ligyron Feb 2017 #33

A Related Thought On That ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #37

It is. Ligyron Feb 2017 #42

Opiate withdrawal isn't dangerous Mariana Feb 2017 #43

Good point. Ligyron Feb 2017 #46

I Continue To Maintain RobinA Feb 2017 #69

I know several people for whom 12-step works shrike Feb 2017 #44

hope they are among the 5 - 10 percent success stories Skittles Feb 2017 #51

See below post. n/t shrike Feb 2017 #53

I noticed a number of AA bashing articles coming out right about the time I began hearing detox shrike Feb 2017 #45

Fair Enough ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #48

I'm not saying you don't have a point. shrike Feb 2017 #54

they started getting bashed when the real stats came out about them Skittles Feb 2017 #56

Whatever n/t shrike Feb 2017 #63

scamming for ACA money Skittles Feb 2017 #50

The uptick in drug rehab centers having the funding to expand and advertise Warpy Feb 2017 #52

Parental Anxiety and Health Insurance Billings jberryhill Feb 2017 #55

We had this discussion on the weekend malaise Feb 2017 #58

Bingo MrScorpio Feb 2017 #59

Thanks for All The Input Folks ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #61

We are handling the crisis mostly wrong superpatriotman Feb 2017 #62

Affordable Care act AngryAmish Feb 2017 #66