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eniwetok

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5. ROTF... did you even read the link?
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 12:31 PM
Feb 2017

"The EC was primarily created because the Founding Fathers feared mob rule as much as they feared a king/dictator."

What utter bullcrap when antidemocratic government permits MINORITY "mob rule"

I see several of the Framers saying there should be a popular vote.

Mr. GOVERNEUR MORRIS: The Executive therefore ought to be so constituted as to be the great protector of the Mass of the people. -It is the duty of the Executive to appoint the officers & to command the forces of the Republic: to appoint 1. [FN3] ministerial officers for the administration of public affairs. 2. [FN3] officers for the dispensation of Justice. Who will be the best Judges whether these appointments be well made? The people at large, who will know, will see, will feel the effects of them.

MADISON: The people at large was in his opinion the fittest in itself. It would be as likely as any that could be devised to produce an Executive Magistrate of distinguished Character. The people generally could only know & vote for some Citizen whose merits had rendered him an object of general attention & esteem. There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections.

And isn't it ridiculous that we are still using this antiquated, racist system, thus we have trump.. brush Feb 2017 #1
The whole electoral system of the US is Third-World-rate. DetlefK Feb 2017 #4
not just tradition... eniwetok Feb 2017 #6
New England states are small and the EC was for them as well as Larkspur Feb 2017 #2
ROTF... did you even read the link? eniwetok Feb 2017 #5
are you denying much of the Constitution was designed to PROTECT slavery? eniwetok Feb 2017 #7
The Constitution was not about protecting slavery Larkspur Feb 2017 #12
of course it's not ALL about protecting slavery.... and I never said that. eniwetok Feb 2017 #16
it's always difficult to imagine how complex systems react to single changes. unblock Feb 2017 #10
Once we think of how PEOPLE are represented... instead of "states"... eniwetok Feb 2017 #11
Oh, there's no question-- BarackTheVote Feb 2017 #3
the EC can not be fixed... eniwetok Feb 2017 #8
why isn't the House "mob rule"????? eniwetok Feb 2017 #9
The point I was trying to make was that BarackTheVote Feb 2017 #13
and making the Constitution more amendable SHOULD be a Democratic issue. eniwetok Feb 2017 #15
Conservative Blogs Locutusofborg Feb 2017 #14
our system destroys any democratic instinct... eniwetok Feb 2017 #17
We were for 10 yrs under the 1st Confederate government and in order to CK_John Feb 2017 #18
Confederate is a loaded term... eniwetok Feb 2017 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #20
it's AA for somebody, that's for sure, and it needs to go. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2017 #21
don't call it affirmative action. Bucky Feb 2017 #22
I use the term.... eniwetok Feb 2017 #23
What you're describing is welfare, not affirmative action Bucky Feb 2017 #26
Answer: the EC existed before the vote of the people... brooklynite Feb 2017 #24
The voice of the People expanded in the Constitution... eniwetok Feb 2017 #25
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