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eniwetok

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22. numbers are one thing... how to USE them is another.

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 21, 2017, 10:02 PM

Feb 2017

I've been involved in these discussions with right wingers forever... and their arguments are very predictable. But I've NEVER heard politician or Single Payer advocate make the argument that I did in the OP... that any shortcomings of the Canadian system could EASILY be addressed by merely going to 60% or 70% of what WE spend. Of course all talk of Single Payer disappeared after the ACA was passed... and after that Libs spent most of their time defending the ACA and largely gone was any talk of Single Payer.

And in that is the difference between the Right and Dems. The Right has had a vision from back in the 70s on how to turn America into Amerika. The Dems never seem to have any long term vision. They tend to think only as far as the next presidential election.

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Health Care Spending: Why Is America Soooooooo Stupid? [View all] eniwetok Feb 2017 OP

Fraud, greed and overpricing run rampant in our health care system Calculating Feb 2017 #1

That latest and greatest equipment saves lives. ileus Feb 2017 #5

How much more research could we afford.... once we get rid of innefficiency? eniwetok Feb 2017 #6

I think we also need to look at patent law... eniwetok Feb 2017 #7

advertising crazycatlady Feb 2017 #9

I think the marketing and advertising industry is killing us. Initech Feb 2017 #11

This Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #20

There was an article in the NYT about how US companies were developing propriatary hips and tools... eniwetok Feb 2017 #24

Yes, I agree with you there. Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #12

Because god forbid somebody get something that someone else doesn't think they deserve. RedWedge Feb 2017 #2

Thanks for the numbers Ezior Feb 2017 #3

Choice is often inefficient... eniwetok Feb 2017 #4

We are talking about people here and there lies the problem. NOBODY wants to pay for something they Jim Beard Feb 2017 #8

Mexico's per capita spending $956.2 eniwetok Feb 2017 #13

Profit, profit, profit, profit, and profit. Initech Feb 2017 #10

profit alone would not be an issue.... eniwetok Feb 2017 #17

profits of insurance/big-pharma companies DrDan Feb 2017 #14

When making the argument it is also important to mention the life expectancy of these nations Victor_c3 Feb 2017 #15

sure... and if we compare US vs Canada eniwetok Feb 2017 #16

speaking of life expectancy... check out this spreadsheet! eniwetok Feb 2017 #18

This meme probably explains a lot too Victor_c3 Feb 2017 #19

whew! I knew Carson was a crackpot... so it was wacky but not unbelievable. nt eniwetok Feb 2017 #23

This hardly something nobody knew about... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #21

numbers are one thing... how to USE them is another. eniwetok Feb 2017 #22

We're not stupid: We're greedy. We refuse to make healthcare non-profit. lindysalsagal Feb 2017 #25

What part of "for profit" do you not understand? mountain grammy Feb 2017 #26