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(12,706 posts) Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:42 AM Feb 2017

Is Howard Dean right? "Dem leadership is 'old and creaky'" [View all]

He endorses Pete Buttigieg for DNC Chair...I think Ellison will get it. The real takeaway was (to me) that Democrats HAVE to SHOW UP - everywhere. IOW back to the 50-state, 365 day/year strategy. I'm certainly not against a young energetic DNC chair.

What do you all think?

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/howard-dean-dem-leadership-is-old-and-creaky-882320451608

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Is Howard Dean right? "Dem leadership is 'old and creaky'" [View all] CousinIT Feb 2017 OP

I'm old and cranky... Zoonart Feb 2017 #1

not just advisers NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #6

Old and Cranky here too! tech3149 Feb 2017 #41

I hear this from many people, that the democratic party needs to be revitalized and back to a RKP5637 Feb 2017 #2

Agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 #31

No. More. Septuagenarians. randome Feb 2017 #3

The GOP is actually in a better position crazycatlady Feb 2017 #48

Maybe the best thing we have going for us, then, is that the GOP is still entrenched in status quo. randome Feb 2017 #65

I'm getting close to that age, and I agree Retrograde Feb 2017 #81

I'm getting up to that old & creaky age NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #4

Martin O'Malley is 54. n/t FSogol Feb 2017 #24

I was impressed by O'Malley NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #29

If you believe what Hogan and Michael Steele said. He left due to term limits. Without them, he'd FSogol Feb 2017 #42

I was an O'Malley supporter and so impressed with his command of issues. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #66

Sally Yates? CurtEastPoint Feb 2017 #28

registered Republican NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #32

I saw that, too. I wonder if she could be won over. I mean, she seems NORMAL! CurtEastPoint Feb 2017 #35

Yep - the next Generation JustAnotherGen Feb 2017 #60

I like what I have seen so far from Buttigieg. LonePirate Feb 2017 #5

The House Democratic Leader is a 76 year old $100 millionaire Renew Deal Feb 2017 #7

Amen. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #37

The 76-year-old House Democratic Leader has institutional memory. GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #69

I think age plays a part in this but not as Dean is suggesting... Docreed2003 Feb 2017 #8

A lot of younger voters do not want to belong to a political party alarimer Feb 2017 #56

No. johnp3907 Feb 2017 #9

At 72, we realize that younger people are needed to take us into the future. SharonAnn Feb 2017 #10

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #22

I've watched Pete in real time as a Michigan neighbor of South Bend. erinlough Feb 2017 #59

Both Howard Dean and Martin O'Malley back Buttigieg. JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #11

Who does get a vote in the matter...and when? CousinIT Feb 2017 #13

447 DNC members, on 23-26 Feb 2017. JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #20

Tx. CousinIT Feb 2017 #21

I Like Him Too Me. Feb 2017 #27

YES! Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #12

Yep, the writing was on the wall and whether we like it or not, tRump saw it and exploited it. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #23

Howard has been calling for "younger blood" in our leadership since Obama was inaugurated DFW Feb 2017 #14

Whoever gets the nomination better get ALL of our support world wide wally Feb 2017 #15

You are correct. n/t FSogol Feb 2017 #25

Yea. 1000000 x that. n/t CousinIT Feb 2017 #30

Howard Dean is right. PatsFan87 Feb 2017 #16

maybe but ellison and perez are Obama generation JI7 Feb 2017 #17

Thank you. Cha Feb 2017 #19

Martin O'Malley endorsed Pete Buttigieg also. Here's what he said: FSogol Feb 2017 #18

Canada has Justin Trudeau greymattermom Feb 2017 #26

Ellison is not the person for the job. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #33

Excellent points, esp Pete the non-Hillary/Non-Bernie candidate (nt) JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #44

Thanks. Time to end the proxy primary fight for the DNC chair. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #54

I like Buttigieg and would be fine with him (though I would rather have Ellison). Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #82

"old and creaky" is an understatement. Scruffy1 Feb 2017 #34

Maybe the problem is too many people just watching? Maybe new union leadership is also needed delisen Feb 2017 #62

It should be Dean as DNC chair, honestly NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #36

He's a lobbyist now. Is that the right look? truebluegreen Feb 2017 #38

Not actually a lobbyist. JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #46

That's all good then. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #53

Yes. He's right about Dem leadership. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #39

Age is a number. It's the mindset that matters. Cases in point: Liz and Bernie Blaukraut Feb 2017 #40

We had an inspiration Plucketeer Feb 2017 #43

What is all of that about? George II Feb 2017 #63

I have to call on Tom Perez as DNC Chair.. Cha Feb 2017 #73

For someone who won't even register as a Democrat, what does that say, and then brings in people still_one Feb 2017 #74

"what does that say" Plucketeer Feb 2017 #77

How DID the DNC's efforts shine for '16 Plucketeer Feb 2017 #78

Let's see. In Michigan Hillary lost by .3%. Jill Stein received 1.1% of the vote there still_one Feb 2017 #79

"self-identified progressives" Plucketeer Feb 2017 #80

anyone who didn't vote for Hillary knowing what was at stake is either NOT a progressive still_one Feb 2017 #83

Yes. toddwv Feb 2017 #45

Just. Get. On. With. It. BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #47

We defiantly need to get back to a 50 state strategy TNLib Feb 2017 #49

Absolutely. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #55

Absolutely RIGHT that! n/t CousinIT Feb 2017 #71

DNC Chair Debate tonight on CNN at 10 p.m. ET JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #50

Oh! Thanks! n/t CousinIT Feb 2017 #61

Am surprised Dean isn't supporting Perez flamingdem Feb 2017 #51

Maybe we should grade them on performance? randr Feb 2017 #52

He has a point... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #57

Agreed! Phoenix61 Feb 2017 #58

Too much scapegoating; to much ageism. nt delisen Feb 2017 #64

Yes. This. GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #70

I think geography is more of an obstacle than age hollowdweller Feb 2017 #67

I think this is true. Willie Pep Feb 2017 #75

Get off of my lawn!!!!!!!!!!! nt Blue_true Feb 2017 #68

May be? kentuck Feb 2017 #72

Make new friends but keep the old Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2017 #76