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In reply to the discussion: Why the fuck do we have Democrats trying to get us to sympathize with deplorables? [View all]Blaukraut
(6,006 posts)205. I feel absolutely ZERO sympathy for them, and here is why...
Peter is a 21 year old honor student in Oklahoma. Not the stereotypical middle aged white guy, and yet.....
"We all live out in the wilderness, either in the middle of a forest or on a farm," he wrote. "Some people cannot leave their homes during times of unfortunate weather. Many still dry clothes by hanging them on wires with clothespins outside. These people are nowhere near the top, or even the middle, of any hierarchy. These people are scraping the bottom of the barrel, and they, seemingly, have nothing to benefit from maintaining the system of order that keeps them at the bottom." His county ended up going about 70 percent for Trump.
Okay, I get that. I'd feel ignored and helpless, too, right? But..
According to the 2010 census, the median household income in Peter's county is a little more than $45,000. By comparison, Detroit's is about $27,000 and Chicago's (with a higher cost of living) is just under $49,000. The poverty rate is 17.5 percent in the county and 7.6 percent in Peter's little town, compared with Chicago's 22.7 percent. The unemployment rate has hovered around 4 percent.
Hmmm. What is this? Why does a supposedly educated young person not know facts about his own county?
Oh but here we get a bit closer to where his thinking originates:
Peter thinks he's not a reactionary. Since that sounds like an insult, I'd like to think so, too. But in writing this piece, I did notice a line in his essay that I had glided over during my first two readings, maybe because I liked him too much to want to be scared by him. "One need only look to the Civil War and the lasting legacies of Reconstruction through to today's current racism and race issues to see what happens when the federal government forces its morals on dissenting parts of the country."
Sadly, I am limited by the three paragraph rule. But this article is required reading. It is chilling, really. So no. I'm not able to scrape up any sympathy. On the contrary: I'm more wary than I was before.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/donald-trump-2016-election-oklahoma-working-class
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Why the fuck do we have Democrats trying to get us to sympathize with deplorables? [View all]
bravenak
Feb 2017
OP
Some of them were bothered by that but still thought him preferable to Hillary becasue, you know,
Amaryllis
Feb 2017
#70
People like her are the ones taken in by fake news (the real fake news, not what T calls fake news).
Amaryllis
Feb 2017
#186
I know. Just ignore us who already are on the same side as them in order to please our oppressors
bravenak
Feb 2017
#13
I doubt there were hundreds of thousands of Hitler voters gassed at Auschwitz.
thucythucy
Feb 2017
#105
It's either Truth And Reconciliation committees or Nuremberg like trials.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2017
#240
I would tell you what i think of your personal attacks but I don't want my post hidden.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2017
#243
Why the fuck is trying to figure out how to manipulate people using progaganda
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#17
And you've absolutely been influenced to choose, buy or reject something based on marketing
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#56
i'm saying a lot of them were comfortable with racism to begin with
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2017
#30
and a certain percentage could have been manipulated in a different direction.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#44
if Hillary has called for a ban on refugees she might have got a few if those votes
JI7
Feb 2017
#59
No one said ANYTHING about abandoning our core values. That is a straw man.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#93
Wrong. You totally don't understand that it's about HOW you market a message.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#88
You are wrong. It's Science. Here's lots of links to SCIENCE for you to either ignore
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#75
Fear based messaging can be effective but I've never been impressed with those studies ..
JHan
Feb 2017
#123
Thanks for the link. What do you think of Lakoff? My point is about marketing, symbolism
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#139
I've seen quite a few Democrats on Hayes, Maddow & O'Donnell's shows standing up and speaking out.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#176
I just posted LOTS of links to Science backing me up. So you can either read up on facts
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#82
Nothing to explain why my black self should participate in this bullshit, right?
bravenak
Feb 2017
#83
In this bullshit fake ass marketing ploy where we try for votes we cannot get and piss my black ass
bravenak
Feb 2017
#107
Oh, give me a break. The non-stop rage at what happened in November is counterproductive.
Chemisse
Feb 2017
#217
I just posted lots of links to scientific studies for you to scoff at. See above for SCIENCE.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#78
I'm black. Why the fuck should I sympathize with folks who voted for a guy who think I'm lazy?
bravenak
Feb 2017
#45
Those several hundred thousand can fuck off too along with Uncle Ben Carson and the firehair Hitler
bravenak
Feb 2017
#184
To me it's like a slave sympathizing with their master. Fuck that. They can burn
bravenak
Feb 2017
#46
Damn straight! We can pull enough voters who did not vote and regret their choice
bravenak
Feb 2017
#57
If they change that is up to them. Coddling a message for them is a repulsive idea.
BeckyDem
Feb 2017
#62
I think your first mistake is assuming that actual Democrats do such a thing...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#79
I sure as eff do not sympathize with racists, sexists, anti-Semites, xenophobes and ...
etherealtruth
Feb 2017
#91
What do you think we did when white folks would not hire us to work the mines?
bravenak
Feb 2017
#166
Me? Of course not. I'm too young and not stupid enough to move to KY to be a coal miner
bravenak
Feb 2017
#173
it's honestly time to accept that the concept of "work" is going away.
forjusticethunders
Feb 2017
#203
When we vote for it instead of thinking we can build a wall to keep the future out.
forjusticethunders
Feb 2017
#220
In the mean time the industry barely exists ... if the jobs were there the miners would not be
etherealtruth
Feb 2017
#138
I'll vote for programs to help Americans, but that doesn't mean they get my sympathy, too.
WinkyDink
Feb 2017
#106
Know the Enemy, even when they are not the enemy because they are American Citizens. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2017
#113
From my perspective I think an important question is how did Nelson Mendela, Ghandi,
senaca
Feb 2017
#116
Yes. We need spines and to stop trying to understand. We cant. We never will. Not like them.
bravenak
Feb 2017
#133
Damn straight. No quarter for Trumpsters and no quarter for 3rd party voters. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2017
#141
Perhaps for the same reason people continue to read your posts after you called DUers racist
mythology
Feb 2017
#154
The weak must be voted out!We want good reps who stand up for our rights and the Constitution
judesedit
Feb 2017
#207