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vi5

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59. I'm fine with that..

Thu Feb 23, 2017, 01:08 PM

Feb 2017

...as long as they don't get to chair any committees or have any positions of power, that allow them an inordinate amount of say or control of what gets through with regard to legislation along the lines of what the conservadems like Lincoln, Baucus and their ilk did with the ACA.

The problem is that too often these folks are essentially given veto power over everything the party does or wants to do.

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