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Demsrule86

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1. I disagree...

Reply to eniwetok (Original post)

Thu Feb 23, 2017, 02:16 PM

Feb 2017

What we are talking about is basically civil rights...

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We Need A Class Consciousness Revival [View all] eniwetok Feb 2017 OP

I disagree... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #1

It's VERY SELECTIVE civil rights... eniwetok Feb 2017 #4

Yes, we are hung up transgendered bathrooms. It is called civil rights. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #8

thanks for proving my point... eniwetok Feb 2017 #25

thanks for proving HER point DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #35

Thanks for ANOTHER display of irrational "thinking" eniwetok Feb 2017 #40

of c ourse there are economic issues DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #64

Let's try this.... eniwetok Feb 2017 #44

actually , NO DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #65

Isn't that what I said in the OP? eniwetok Feb 2017 #80

You are welcome. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #42

I'll take your non-response as a concession... eniwetok Feb 2017 #45

Assuming are you? Well you know what they say... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #48

Hey, YOU are the one who ran from the debate... eniwetok Feb 2017 #51

TRANSLATION: Dems should DROP all talk of economic solidarity! eniwetok Feb 2017 #73

Yeah, there it is. Identity politics is the rightwing word for diversity and civil rights. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #2

Uh? Please explain... Here's what I wrote AGAIN... eniwetok Feb 2017 #3

Yes, there will always be a need to recognize some legitimate issues of identity repression DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #36

you're ignoring the BIGGER questions... eniwetok Feb 2017 #39

You sound genuinely resentful that women, LGBTs and POC have legit basic human rights issues.... bettyellen Feb 2017 #68

You sound resentful of basic rights like civic equality, health care.... eniwetok Feb 2017 #76

Nope. I'm fighting for other things too-and not asking anyone to back burner their civil rights- as bettyellen Feb 2017 #87

The poster said 'dragged' into leftstreet Feb 2017 #15

I can see why identity politics started... eniwetok Feb 2017 #17

The problem with class ymetca Feb 2017 #5

So feminism as an ideology is fine... eniwetok Feb 2017 #6

Feminism has had it's problems, too Lanius Feb 2017 #7

But I don't think they really are two different issues ymetca Feb 2017 #10

"That is where all the world's power truly lies." eniwetok Feb 2017 #11

I think the rich are as blind to class warfare ymetca Feb 2017 #12

There you go again... so I say again... eniwetok Feb 2017 #34

You fail right out of the gate. Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #9

+1 La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #13

I wish we could rec' posts. ++++++++++++++++++ JHan Feb 2017 #14

wow... two applaud... and I can't even figure out what you meant. eniwetok Feb 2017 #16

Maybe they think They ARE voting for their economic interests leftstreet Feb 2017 #21

Read your own post again: Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #22

I have a better idea... don't edit my post! eniwetok Feb 2017 #27

I copied and pasted directly from your post Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #28

BULLCRAP ALERT!!! eniwetok Feb 2017 #29

LOL--it's called quoting. Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #33

Fine... you win the debate with your own strawmen. eniwetok Feb 2017 #53

seriously... do you think I care about "recs"? eniwetok Feb 2017 #84

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+100 Quayblue Feb 2017 #31

10000000X Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #43

Racism is stronger than class identity. Adrahil Feb 2017 #18

the Right has a vested interest in keeping racism alive... eniwetok Feb 2017 #19

Yes. They applied it and it worked. Adrahil Feb 2017 #23

ROTF... you haven't proven anything.... eniwetok Feb 2017 #24

so we should go back to the good old days DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #37

Pray tell, how can anyone conclude that from anything I said? eniwetok Feb 2017 #38

because DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #62

No... YOU are claiming it's a Right Wing label... eniwetok Feb 2017 #72

You are completely kidding yourself. Adrahil Feb 2017 #66

That would be appropriatate for Sean Hanity's show...rightie talking point for sure . Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #50

Study the reality of whiteness as a invisible societal norm ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #20

what does that have to do with Dems emphasizing economics? eniwetok Feb 2017 #32

Everything ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #57

get back to me when you want to post something thoughtful eniwetok Feb 2017 #59

Americans don't want to admit that we a class system kiranerys Feb 2017 #26

I was just saying that same thing today myself. AJT Feb 2017 #30

Just a few thoughts on this VERY complex issue........... socialist_n_TN Feb 2017 #41

thanks for that thoughtful response... eniwetok Feb 2017 #46

I doubt that any political party that supports capitalism...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2017 #47

aggregation of wealth is easier in an antidemocratic system... eniwetok Feb 2017 #49

The "minority of the opulent"......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2017 #61

when I say antidemocractic... eniwetok Feb 2017 #70

But you can't separate the political system........... socialist_n_TN Feb 2017 #77

and yet the Framers didn't trust the corporate form... eniwetok Feb 2017 #82

BTW, the term "class consciousness" itself is Marxist....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2017 #60

Sure... I could not think of a better term eniwetok Feb 2017 #71

Talking about class leads to cognitive dissonance for believers in American exceptionalism. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #52

why isn't antidemocratic government also on your list? eniwetok Feb 2017 #54

Antidemocratic government was built in to this system guillaumeb Feb 2017 #55

The Senate was set up to preserve the status quo -- i.e. to protect the interests of the elite Lanius Feb 2017 #56

True. It was originally set up so Senators were not even elected. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #58

why DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #63

missing from your "analysis" is the political NATURE of our system. eniwetok Feb 2017 #79

Except FigTree Feb 2017 #67

"Whatever" forjusticethunders Feb 2017 #69

Who said I was a Marxist? eniwetok Feb 2017 #74

You are arguing for all of us to work together. It's a good idea but unfortunately I think most jalan48 Feb 2017 #75

We Have To Attack The Right's Coalition Building Strategy eniwetok Feb 2017 #78

I agree with you. especially if we take the long view of what is necessary for our society. jalan48 Feb 2017 #81

The far Right took the long view in the 1970s... eniwetok Feb 2017 #83