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forjusticethunders

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21. You work with the political system you have.
Thu Feb 23, 2017, 03:55 PM
Feb 2017

That is the problem with so many people on the Left. They think that with enough "willpower" or "determination" or "steadfastness" or something related you can just force through the changes you want (which is actually a fascist concept now that I think about it). Yes, the system is bullshit, we all know this. But we have to WIN under these rules so we can change them. As much as I hate Rahm and everything about what he believes, he has the correct approach to politics; very reminiscent of Lombardi, winning isn't everything, it is THE ONLY THING.

Winning is the only thing, because of all the people that get hurt if we lose. Even the people that get hurt when we can't go far enough to the left to help them, get hurt MORE when the Right wins. We have to win. Anyone who cares about what the Right will do to the vulnerable should have the Left (in whatever form it takes, even if the faction of the left with the most power isn't as left as you or I would like) winning as the highest priority. Voting Green does not help the Left, as a broad entity, win. And there are ways to move the Dems left, that do not involve doing things to help the Left lose.

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Pop leftism is a form of disaster capitalism. [View all] forjusticethunders Feb 2017 OP
I agree. AJT Feb 2017 #1
I understand that the Social Democrats also opposed the Communists. David__77 Feb 2017 #2
"Welcome to the Machine" ymetca Feb 2017 #3
You're right, Bob Shrum. Stay the course! DefenseLawyer Feb 2017 #4
:D TransitJohn Feb 2017 #5
Green Party Derangement Disorder... eniwetok Feb 2017 #11
Aren't you doing the very same thing? kcr Feb 2017 #15
Are you saying that if Greens run... they are blaming Dems instead of system? eniwetok Feb 2017 #17
You work with the political system you have. forjusticethunders Feb 2017 #21
I beg to differ, a bit... eniwetok Feb 2017 #29
... and gerrymandering and voter suppression don't exist dammit!!! :rolleyes@DemsSuckCrew uponit7771 Feb 2017 #16
agreed.. JHan Feb 2017 #6
16 years of incrementalism zipplewrath Feb 2017 #7
TRANSLATION: Corporate Dems are OK... but not Progressives... eniwetok Feb 2017 #8
Seems a rather inaccurate translation predicated more on your own bias LanternWaste Feb 2017 #23
Republican voters are disciplined, angry and sometime hateful Blue_true Feb 2017 #9
the names you've mentioned don't really have much in common with one another. fishwax Feb 2017 #10
Gave you ur 5th rec. good op. Very thoughtful. boston bean Feb 2017 #12
Thank you, forjusticethunders.. Avoid them like the plague. Cha Feb 2017 #13
K&R Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #14
I see no lies. MrScorpio Feb 2017 #18
You forgot Tavis Smiley and Cornel West BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #19
ahh Cornel West... JHan Feb 2017 #27
The question that needs to be ask is "is this person's income or wealth" forjusticethunders Feb 2017 #20
this is brilliant. sorry i missed it. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #22
K and R. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. oasis Feb 2017 #24
KnR sheshe2 Feb 2017 #25
kick Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #26
If Bernie had won the presidency, they would be tearing his administration apart Yavin4 Feb 2017 #28
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