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truebluegreen

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40. Um, no, I don't, necessarily.

Thu Feb 23, 2017, 05:04 PM

Feb 2017

I do find it a little odd that a few years ago they were in disrepute on this board for "lying us into a war"...and now they're our besties? Because they don't care for the loose cannon that is Trump?

I think they are useful, up to a point...but they get a lot of things wrong (most famously they didn't see the collapse of the USSR coming--which at the time was their primary mission)(oops), they have a certain mindset (essentially paranoid); they are secretive as part of the job description, a big stock in their trade is misdirection (i.e. lying) and as an unelected body I don't want them setting policy.

That not quite the same as saying "I hate the IC, especially the CIA." Is it.

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A Trump Rebellion Is Reported to be Brewing Among The Intelligence Community [View all] babylonsister Feb 2017 OP

#PawnOfTheKremlin And the Repukes meekly kiss his ass. Achilleaze Feb 2017 #1

I'd say it's underway... I too would like to know what mistruth's they have told? NotThisTime Feb 2017 #6

"reported to be brewing"? truebluegreen Feb 2017 #2

How's that, exactly? What 'untruths' have been leaked? (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #3

if you look closely the disclaimers are there. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #7

Nope, I've never asked myself anything. I'm uncritical and ill-informed, as you assume. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author FreepFryer Feb 2017 #9

Whatever you say. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #12

Just going to make a vague and empty attempt to smear the IC as untruthful w/o any examples? (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #13

Oh sure, you're right truebluegreen Feb 2017 #16

Hyperbole, ad nauseam and a complete lack of examples doesn't support your argument (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #18

If you can't be serious truebluegreen Feb 2017 #21

I'm quite serious. Same question: What specific IC disclosures have been untrue? (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #24

I can't help but notice, however, that you didn't answer the question. What untruths, exactly? (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #11

Start with the Steele dossier. I'll wait. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #14

Pedantic insults after being asked for SPECIFIC examples is unhelpful to your argument (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #19

Easy - because it's a threat to the credibility of both Trump and the presidency kiranerys Feb 2017 #32

I think we agree. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #39

The problem with the leaks is that they are most likely truths. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2017 #17

I imagine there are a lot of truths involved in babylonsister Feb 2017 #10

I think some have their own agenda truebluegreen Feb 2017 #15

Only a matter of time until Pence makes his move. LS_Editor Feb 2017 #23

This. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #20

Ok, you hate the IC especially the CIA. We get it njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #27

Um, no, I don't, necessarily. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #40

Good read. BeckyDem Feb 2017 #4

The story that Russia now thinks drumph is an idiot is an obvious attempt to downplay their BSdetect Feb 2017 #5

Has anyone considered Vice President Pence was at least partially behind the leak that canned Flynn? LS_Editor Feb 2017 #22

Go watch the new Olbermann on GQ. Volaris Feb 2017 #25

Spingtime's for leaking golden showers. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #26

The tax mess is most likely the catalyst. gordianot Feb 2017 #29

Yeah, if it shows any funny business kiranerys Feb 2017 #33

Puzzling that it hasn't yet been leaked, at least to Schumer. JudyM Feb 2017 #38

Rebellions, revolutions and Civil War is always messy. gordianot Feb 2017 #28

Get Trump outta there and... Sadie5 Feb 2017 #30

I saw Scarborough interview Paul Ryan about the Russia stuff, and you could just tell.... kiranerys Feb 2017 #34

I have no doubt there is a rebellion underway. GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #31

I honestly don't think that Ryan and McConnell are in Russia's pocket kiranerys Feb 2017 #35

I don't think they are in Russia's pocket, either. But, GoCubsGo Feb 2017 #36

good point triron Feb 2017 #41

Instead of POTUS, he's POTK. NT July Feb 2017 #37

Kick Rec Hekate Feb 2017 #42