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hunter

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18. I'm some kind of Luddite and proud of it.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:11 PM
Feb 2017

"Advanced" technology doesn't have to be things like smart phones or electric cars.

I readily accepted compact fluorescent and then LED lighting. I'm replacing compact fluorescents with LEDs as the fluorescents fail. (We still have a few fluorescents that are fifteen to twenty years old and won't die...) To me LED lighting is advanced technology. Professors Isamu Akasaki, Hiroshi Amano and Shuji Nakamura, the inventors of this technology, rightfully won a Nobel Prize.

Automobiles are loathsome, one of mankind's most deadly and destructive inventions. We ought to be doing everything we can to end this automobile age. If somebody gave me a Tesla I'd give it away in a heartbeat to someone who cared. Same with a smartphone. All this shit ends up as toxic waste. These are not advanced technology from my perspective. They are increasingly complex but regressive technology. (I might change my mind about smartphones if they'd quit building them as disposable consumer goods.)

The first real computer operating system I used was BSD Unix, that was in the late 'seventies. This was elegant and advanced technology and it still is. The last Microsoft product I used was Windows 98SE. Then I switched to Linux, which was like coming home. There is nothing Windows or Apple machines offer that appeals to me. Apple and Microsoft machines are maddeningly complex and bloated technologies, but they are not advanced technology. Throwing thousands of engineers at a problem doesn't make an advanced technology.

Robotic space exploration is an advanced technology. Manned deep space exploration, beyond earth's protective magnetic field, is just a stunt. We went to the moon. We know that space beyond the protection of earth's magnetic field is very hostile to human biology. What else is there to know? I'm cynical in spite of my grandfather who was one of the engineers who built the Apollo spacecraft. Some of his metal is on the moon and in the Smithsonian, but I'd much prefer all of our deep space exploration budget pay for increasingly sophisticated robots. Space belongs to our intellectual children, biological or mechanical, creatures that can walk on the martian surface naked. There's no good reason to send ordinary humans to the moon and beyond. Been there, done that.

Creating vegetarian menus that appeal to people who are not vegetarians is an advanced technology. Factory farmed pigs are not. Organic agriculture is an advanced technology. Drenching everything in herbicides and pesticides is not, especially as we watch the rapid evolution of pests and weeds to resist this kind of agriculture.

I "embrace the now" because what other choice do I have? But I don't have to tolerate the bullshit. Most new technology is bullshit that's not "progressive" in any way. That's a fundamental problem of our economic system. This thing we call "economic productivity" isn't productivity at all, it's a direct measure of the damage we are doing to earth's natural environment and our own human spirit.








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mine is just a minute phone that stays powered of in the glove box of my car. Its there in putitinD Feb 2017 #1
That's exactly what I do canetoad Feb 2017 #19
mine is a track phone, about $100 per year, and the minutes roll over, I think I have 4000 minutes putitinD Feb 2017 #25
same here... chillfactor Feb 2017 #2
The only sounds my phone makes is for phone calls, texts and alarms. Arkansas Granny Feb 2017 #3
My work style is to completely immerse myself in the task at hand. MineralMan Feb 2017 #9
because of my disability MFM008 Feb 2017 #4
I thought I was alone in this activity. redstatebluegirl Feb 2017 #5
Easy for me jodymarie aimee Feb 2017 #6
I keep mine on... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #7
I actually use mine as a phone HipChick Feb 2017 #8
I keep mine on. Sound off. Vibration for incoming calls and incoming texts only. No alert for emails Iggo Feb 2017 #10
"I don't need a 'smart phone' my 'flip phone' is enough..." Cooley Hurd Feb 2017 #11
this crazycatlady Feb 2017 #12
This is not an anti-technology thread. Not at all. MineralMan Feb 2017 #13
It came across, strongly, as that.. Cooley Hurd Feb 2017 #14
I'm some kind of Luddite and proud of it. hunter Feb 2017 #18
I like having one when I'm out and about Retrograde Feb 2017 #15
I mute mine and I put certain apps in do not disturb mode. xor Feb 2017 #16
I put mine in "airplane mode" aka "flight mode" which cuts it off from the outside progree Feb 2017 #17
I was watching a live cast with John Lewis ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #20
Yes. I love what technology can do, but I insist MineralMan Feb 2017 #21
It is possible to not be tied to it... Adrahil Feb 2017 #23
+1,000 malaise Feb 2017 #22
Works for you, not for me. MicaelS Feb 2017 #24
Have child child on a sleepover in another state HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #26
My kids and family have various red telephone hotline numbers, text, email, and other connections. hunter Feb 2017 #28
Alerts For E-Mails RobinA Feb 2017 #27
Nothing more annoying than holier-than-thou posts... brooklynite Feb 2017 #29
Thanks for taking the time to post your reply. MineralMan Feb 2017 #30
My phone PatSeg Feb 2017 #31
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