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politicat

(9,810 posts)
43. My IWW state level rep had an interesting argument.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 04:15 AM
Feb 2017

The TGOP is in a mood to set fires just because they like to watch things burn.

Ellison promised to quit the House if elected. Which would mean a special election for his seat. Special elections are lower turnout and favor TGOP, and because nothing else is competing for the money at the time, they can be drastically overfunded. The TGOP has a war chest that the Dems don't have right now, and have a lot of money on tap.

Ellison's seat is considered safe, but safe because he's in it. MN5 doesn't have a deep bench because Ellison is good and popular there. In an open election, it gets a lot less safe, and it only has to be unsafe by a small margin, because TGOP doesn't care about longevity right now. They'd love to take that seat not because they need it, but because it would be a big old kick curb-stomp. It wouldn't even matter much if they retained the seat in 2018; taking it once would be a kick in the goolies. We need Ellison where he is, because it puts him in a better place to take a Senate seat (if Amy or Al retire or move up) or to run for the Governor's office, given that Mark Dayton is having some health issues and may not be up for a re-election fight. Personally, I'd much rather have the former public defender in the House and the civil rights lawyer at the DNC. They're both fighters, but with differing skills and strengths.

Perez was widely viewed as far-far-left as recently as 10 months ago, and is not significantly less left than Ellison. (Yeah, it would have been great if he had managed to get some criminal charges against the banksters who illegally foreclosed on veterans' houses. But that was a civil, not criminal case, and I'm pretty sure those vets were happy to have their money back...) When Wobblies are saying the guy is fine, really, Perez is fine.

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It does however decide where money is being spent. PatsFan87 Feb 2017 #1
I'm one of those consultants crazycatlady Feb 2017 #29
That's true, but the energy of a DNC Chair can be contagious. MineralMan Feb 2017 #2
I wanted Kal Penn, but none of them are socialist enough for me. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #15
That's total BS radical noodle Feb 2017 #28
My IWW state level rep had an interesting argument. politicat Feb 2017 #43
Why is the position put to a vote? leftstreet Feb 2017 #3
He was hired...by the DNC. nt DURHAM D Feb 2017 #5
Because everyone in a leadership position in the Democratic Party MineralMan Feb 2017 #6
How is selecting super delegates democratic? InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2017 #17
Be ause the elected DNC poli is made the decision... brooklynite Feb 2017 #20
So, if the DNC decided give the super delegates even greater weight, that'd be cool? InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2017 #21
In fact, it would... brooklynite Feb 2017 #24
You can't be serious... when those in power design the rules to extend their power and InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2017 #32
As someone who's actually held a Party office (Ward Committee in Philadelphia)... brooklynite Feb 2017 #38
I certainly understand, given the party office you held... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2017 #41
When have superdegates subverted the will of the people? BainsBane Feb 2017 #42
This is not a new rule. sarah FAILIN Feb 2017 #40
Funny how people do not understand how Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #19
A CEO is hired by a vote. Igel Feb 2017 #9
True. Guess I don't think of them as CEOs leftstreet Feb 2017 #12
Cong. Ellison: "We don't have the luxury of walking out of this room divided!" DURHAM D Feb 2017 #4
He's right. bunnies Feb 2017 #7
Truth! n/t Beartracks Feb 2017 #10
True that, and I'm certainly willing to give Perez a chance... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2017 #33
Ideologically Perez and Ellison are very, very similar. geek tragedy Feb 2017 #8
My sentiments exactly. white_wolf Feb 2017 #11
other than when he was a trashman paying his way through college dsc Feb 2017 #26
Unite! Cattledog Feb 2017 #13
I'm glad they are friends. That can only be helpful..n/t monmouth4 Feb 2017 #14
It would be great if some around here would take a fucking cue from them and get with the program. BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #39
Sets idealogical tone? Yeahh, just sets up the establishment candidate more like it... I get it. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2017 #16
the whole progressive vs establishment argument is a false dichotomy .. JHan Feb 2017 #35
I'm not upset at all. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #18
You bring up a great point. Tatiana Feb 2017 #25
MN-5 wouldn't have gone GOP. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #27
Well stated! thank you! n/t VOX Feb 2017 #37
LOL azmom Feb 2017 #22
People have more impact getting candidates they want at Blue_true Feb 2017 #23
I'd rather have 10 strong candidates than just one bhikkhu Feb 2017 #30
I was happy either way Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #31
I liked ellison DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #34
The better candidate won. nt LexVegas Feb 2017 #36
I like both. I supported Perez, but would have been fine with Ellison. Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #44
In theory quaker bill Feb 2017 #45
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