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46. Because many here on DU still blame Bernie for Hillary not becoming president!

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Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:57 AM

Feb 2017

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Why is the attitude towards Bernie, 'stay out of the way if you're not going to join the party',.. [View all] StubbornThings Feb 2017 OP

Meh BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #1

Don't agree or don't care? StubbornThings Feb 2017 #2

Bored with the whining BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #3

I think you're responding to the wrong OP then. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #9

Nah, you're trying to keep 2016 alive BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #13

Not even close. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #28

You have a very interesting way of looking forward BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #31

+1,000 butdiduvote Feb 2017 #116

Ask him why he won't become a Democratic Party member? boston bean Feb 2017 #4

Why does it matter? Aren't we all trying to accomplish the same things? StubbornThings Feb 2017 #11

it matters. it matters to us who are members. It matters that we have someone boston bean Feb 2017 #15

Does winning matter to you? StubbornThings Feb 2017 #30

If you honestly believe that nini Feb 2017 #59

It matters to *some* members of the party. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #49

And we remember why he "ran as a Democrat". NanceGreggs Feb 2017 #139

100% agree, what sort of message does that send to OnDoutside Feb 2017 #54

You don't get it. If Party membership doesn't "matter," then WHY NOT JOIN?? WinkyDink Feb 2017 #63

Especially when there is an upside to joining and no downside. randome Feb 2017 #67

Bernie is an independent...I wish he would become a Democrt. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #5

Why? He wants the same things as you or I. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #14

I'm registered a democrat. So, Bernie and I are not the same. boston bean Feb 2017 #20

Again. What is your goal? StubbornThings Feb 2017 #32

pretty much spelled out in the party I belong to. boston bean Feb 2017 #33

We lost with Sanders' 'help' so you are proving the exact opposite of the point you want to make. randome Feb 2017 #35

It would send a message and help with unity. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #51

Did you notice Bernie lost the nomination? WinkyDink Feb 2017 #65

Because he keeps trash-talking the Democratic Party. randome Feb 2017 #6

45% of the voters in the primary is A LOT more than a "handful of our own" StubbornThings Feb 2017 #18

"Whatever it takes" does not mean listening to someone that Congress does not support. randome Feb 2017 #25

What a total crock Kentonio Feb 2017 #34

And we lost with Sanders' help so what does the evidence tell you about his effectiveness? randome Feb 2017 #37

The key lesson is the long declining support for the party long before Bernie ran. Kentonio Feb 2017 #41

You are only seeing the elephant because Sanders has hypnotized you. randome Feb 2017 #44

Ageism AND a total disregard for the opinions of 45% of our voters Kentonio Feb 2017 #47

Yep. Amazing, isn't it. nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #124

We also lost... Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #112

I care what the voters think. Not Congress. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #36

Someone who is not supported by Congress has little influence. randome Feb 2017 #38

Someone who 45% of our voters feel represent their opinion Kentonio Feb 2017 #45

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I don't think Berniecrats are the ones blinded by hero worship. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #71

Yup. truebluegreen Feb 2017 #69

He needs to stick to what he does best: preserving his comfortable position as armchair quarterback. randome Feb 2017 #43

I think that number is exagerrated. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #52

He won 22 of the 50+ state primaries. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #125

Not following your first paragraph. vdogg Feb 2017 #7

Because it's like not joining your union Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #8

good analogy. boston bean Feb 2017 #12

Kind of like whining about Bernie constantly. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #21

No, it's pointing out the guy whining is all talk Starry Messenger Feb 2017 #27

Bernie lost. How will that be "winning again"? WinkyDink Feb 2017 #68

Why doesn't Bernie join the party? DanTex Feb 2017 #10

Why does it matter what jersey he wears. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #39

In some ways it doesn't, in other ways it does. DanTex Feb 2017 #66

Then let him wear OURS. SEE HOW THAT ARGUMENT WORKS? WinkyDink Feb 2017 #70

No. That's a terrible argument for me. I don't care what label you or anyone wears. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #95

Is this opposite day? DURHAM D Feb 2017 #16

Funny. I crafted the same comment while you were posting yours Kolesar Feb 2017 #22

Thanks. Fixed it. nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #26

...people that wanted Perez as the head of the DNC really have no interest in the Democratic party. Kolesar Feb 2017 #17

Those Independents want to start beating Republicans. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #24

The Democratic Party is the only way to beat Republicans... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #53

It's only an observation and speculation Ligyron Feb 2017 #79

Supporters of Perez were traditional Democratic Party types Kolesar Feb 2017 #122

I don't have that opinion at all, I think a lot of people don't. We are all fighting for the same NotThisTime Feb 2017 #19

Exactly. That's might whole point. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #23

. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #29

Like losing or don't care? nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #40

I don't like looking back and refighting old wars. For me it is about democratic principles - NRaleighLiberal Feb 2017 #42

Because many here on DU still blame Bernie for Hillary not becoming president! Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #46

Hey I admit it...I think the divisive primary cost Hillary the election with a little help from Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #55

I agree 100 %! Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #85

I agree...time to move into the future...not live in the past. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #92

That's exactly what my OP is doing...looking at the future? nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #96

Also.. Else You Are Mad Feb 2017 #114

I agree butdiduvote Feb 2017 #121

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You blame the guy who was out of the picture after the convention for her losing to a baffoon. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #134

Hahah. Out of the picture. butdiduvote Feb 2017 #135

Yes indeed Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #129

Assuming that this observation of yours is accurate... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #48

Great post Nurse...right on the money. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #58

They are not looking for perfection. They just want someone that represents them to win. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #97

Well... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #111

Nothing will please the hardcore bernie bros nini Feb 2017 #56

My post was not really about Bernie. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #98

Then perhaps you shouldn't have slipped his name in there nini Feb 2017 #104

It's time to put hurt feelings aside and unite to oust Trump and his gang. Vinca Feb 2017 #57

Both sides need to get on board. Not just one. nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #99

You know why. And this is not helpful. They're never going to get over it. So just leave it alone. Iggo Feb 2017 #60

Exactly, just freaking stop. It is over, work on getting the people you can, it is that simple. NotThisTime Feb 2017 #94

What are you talking about. Get over what? nt StubbornThings Feb 2017 #100

"They have moved on from the two-party system...." AKA, losers. WinkyDink Feb 2017 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author StubbornThings Feb 2017 #101

He lost me at Tad Devine. JTFrog Feb 2017 #62

Gag order. democratisphere Feb 2017 #64

Divide, divide, divide.... FSogol Feb 2017 #72

Word. Iggo Feb 2017 #73

Please explain. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #102

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Feb 2017 #74

Have you joined the Democratic Party? QC Feb 2017 #75

Unlike Bernie, he probably would if he could. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #77

I've been around since 2004. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #103

Yeah, that was obvious...nt SidDithers Feb 2017 #137

thats how republicans trained* some people to think to divide the D party. Sunlei Feb 2017 #76

But he did hurt the actual election. That's what spoilers do. JTFrog Feb 2017 #78

no he didn't, he helped Hillary. Sunlei Feb 2017 #81

LOL! JTFrog Feb 2017 #83

that's bagger speak, he never said that. Sunlei Feb 2017 #84

No that was BoB speak. JTFrog Feb 2017 #86

trump did say he wanted to get rid of the uber-wealthy-donors, (drain the swamp) but that was a big Sunlei Feb 2017 #88

Agree wholeheartedly Frog Cha Feb 2017 #87

Oh for cryin' out loud!!!!!!!!!!!! leftofcool Feb 2017 #80

What part of it is wrong. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #105

Ask yourself this? Why don't we hear Elizabeth Warren spouting the crap Sanders does? nini Feb 2017 #82

My post isn't really about Sanders, but maybe you didn't read the whole thing. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #106

But it is nini Feb 2017 #115

Ok. But 45% of the primary voter wants the party to go in a different direction. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #126

You don't know what 45% wanted. Many of them happily voted for Hillary bravenak Feb 2017 #138

If Bernie wants to change the Democratic Party he needs to join it for longer than a campaign csziggy Feb 2017 #89

Again, my post isn't really about Sanders. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #107

Sanders could use his influence to ask his followers to work with the Democratic Party csziggy Feb 2017 #110

First of all, Bernie's supporters don't worship him. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #127

What I have seen is that they are tearing into the Democratic Party more than Trump csziggy Feb 2017 #136

Democrats LOVED Joe Lieberman, though he ditched the party when he could. alarimer Feb 2017 #90

That is NOT what the election of Perez meant. pnwmom Feb 2017 #91

Beyonce knows why... LuvLoogie Feb 2017 #93

He stokes a divisive media/Republican narrative. lapucelle Feb 2017 #108

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I was gonna say because we're feeling the burn ucrdem Feb 2017 #118

Idk. My attitude toward Bernie is "Stay out of the way unless you're gonna help the party." butdiduvote Feb 2017 #113

Again, the "Deputy Chair" Position Does Not Exist....It Never Did....Ever.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2017 #117

Unless and until he address voting rights and election integrity head-on ucrdem Feb 2017 #119

Bernies about Bernie. nt LexVegas Feb 2017 #120

Independents muddy the water MyNameGoesHere Feb 2017 #123

Because you are hearing a minority voice's opinion on Bernie. Rex Feb 2017 #130

I hear ya. StubbornThings Feb 2017 #132

I voted for HRC, but this place was huge for Bernie. Rex Feb 2017 #133

He wants to have his cake and eat it too... Adrahil Feb 2017 #140