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NNadir

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14. A look at the 1948 election map might offer some perspective on what is...

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:09 AM

Feb 2017

...and is not possible:

Truman was opposed by former VP Wallace (who won no electoral votes) on the far left, and Thurmond (Segregationist) on the right, who took what are still the most racist states in the South as an outgrowth of his executive order to desegregate the armed forces. Dewey, a very popular moderate Republican, as species which no longer exists, was the Republican nominee.

Truman was a tough minded moderate. He was extremely unpopular when he left office in 1952, mostly because he faced down MacArthur and insisted on the supremacy of civilian control of the military, but history has a very different take on him, generally in the mid-range among the top ten, as high as the 5th greatest President as ever.

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You want a 50 state strategy or you want a purist party of dems [View all] boston bean Feb 2017 OP

There's more to it than that.... vi5 Feb 2017 #1

Well... that is what you are going to get. You can't change that. You will have a majority for 2-4 boston bean Feb 2017 #3

So there are no blue state Republicans? vi5 Feb 2017 #4

Susan Collins and there are others who do not vote lockstep. boston bean Feb 2017 #6

Collins and Snow are the only ones I can think of... vi5 Feb 2017 #9

many times. I think you just aren't paying attention. boston bean Feb 2017 #12

Again....I get all of that.... vi5 Feb 2017 #20

That message doesn't work in red states. You may want to believe it with all your might, but it boston bean Feb 2017 #22

It appears to me that you are the one brer cat Feb 2017 #29

Snow retired a few years ago....nt 2naSalit Feb 2017 #34

Poliics is constant compromise. Even when we are abolutely, positively correct in what we believe... TreasonousBastard Feb 2017 #2

"Now that their right wing has taken over there are fewer moderates with a voice" vi5 Feb 2017 #5

Gerrymandering plays into this. boston bean Feb 2017 #7

Fine, if it's not "give them more" then I'm o.k. with it... vi5 Feb 2017 #11

As I said, party discipline is important, but... TreasonousBastard Feb 2017 #25

I see this shit about Joe Minchin and how he should be stripped of his leadership seat. Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 #8

It is the Manchin thing.. I do not like that man.. however, primary him.. oust him... NOPE! boston bean Feb 2017 #15

You're Cha Feb 2017 #10

Hi Cha!!!!!!! boston bean Feb 2017 #13

Hey Cha Feb 2017 #19

A look at the 1948 election map might offer some perspective on what is... NNadir Feb 2017 #14

I want politicians who represent their constituents and caucus with us. X_Digger Feb 2017 #16

I think Texas is ripe for the picking Horse with no Name Feb 2017 #26

I always vote for most electable liberal in the primary. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #17

That is what a party does. If they chose people you want, there would be others who aren't happy. boston bean Feb 2017 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Feb 2017 #21

I wasn't clear, I meant to write local party leaders decide aikoaiko Feb 2017 #23

letting them run un-opposed needs to stop. mopinko Feb 2017 #28

This is the rare binary choice that reflects reality. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #24

I want fewer batty polls. nt procon Feb 2017 #27

I reject the premise that those are the only options TDale313 Feb 2017 #30

Reality doesn't care what you reject. nt stevenleser Feb 2017 #32

I agree with your perspective... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #33

Yeah, but otherwise.... vi5 Feb 2017 #35

Perez did a great job at the DOJ and the voting rights section Gothmog Feb 2017 #31

You identify a paradigm quaker bill Feb 2017 #36