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brer cat

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29. It appears to me that you are the one

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 11:04 AM

Feb 2017

who is being naive. Bernie Sanders got 270 votes in my county vs 3000 for republican candidates. Do you think a progressive candidate can come here, "sell better" and win? Hell, no. And it has absolutely nothing to do with their "donors best interest" or gerrymandering; that is simply the reality of political views here. It is going to be a very long slog to get any democrat elected, and when they start to win here, they will be very conservative. Running a progressive candidate in the near-term would be counter productive, turning off the slightly left-leaning voters before we had a prayer of winning.

Running a successful 50-state strategy requires recognizing reality, not trying to force the agenda of the most progressive members of the party into every district in every state.

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You want a 50 state strategy or you want a purist party of dems [View all] boston bean Feb 2017 OP

There's more to it than that.... vi5 Feb 2017 #1

Well... that is what you are going to get. You can't change that. You will have a majority for 2-4 boston bean Feb 2017 #3

So there are no blue state Republicans? vi5 Feb 2017 #4

Susan Collins and there are others who do not vote lockstep. boston bean Feb 2017 #6

Collins and Snow are the only ones I can think of... vi5 Feb 2017 #9

many times. I think you just aren't paying attention. boston bean Feb 2017 #12

Again....I get all of that.... vi5 Feb 2017 #20

That message doesn't work in red states. You may want to believe it with all your might, but it boston bean Feb 2017 #22

It appears to me that you are the one brer cat Feb 2017 #29

Snow retired a few years ago....nt 2naSalit Feb 2017 #34

Poliics is constant compromise. Even when we are abolutely, positively correct in what we believe... TreasonousBastard Feb 2017 #2

"Now that their right wing has taken over there are fewer moderates with a voice" vi5 Feb 2017 #5

Gerrymandering plays into this. boston bean Feb 2017 #7

Fine, if it's not "give them more" then I'm o.k. with it... vi5 Feb 2017 #11

As I said, party discipline is important, but... TreasonousBastard Feb 2017 #25

I see this shit about Joe Minchin and how he should be stripped of his leadership seat. Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 #8

It is the Manchin thing.. I do not like that man.. however, primary him.. oust him... NOPE! boston bean Feb 2017 #15

You're Cha Feb 2017 #10

Hi Cha!!!!!!! boston bean Feb 2017 #13

Hey Cha Feb 2017 #19

A look at the 1948 election map might offer some perspective on what is... NNadir Feb 2017 #14

I want politicians who represent their constituents and caucus with us. X_Digger Feb 2017 #16

I think Texas is ripe for the picking Horse with no Name Feb 2017 #26

I always vote for most electable liberal in the primary. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #17

That is what a party does. If they chose people you want, there would be others who aren't happy. boston bean Feb 2017 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Feb 2017 #21

I wasn't clear, I meant to write local party leaders decide aikoaiko Feb 2017 #23

letting them run un-opposed needs to stop. mopinko Feb 2017 #28

This is the rare binary choice that reflects reality. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #24

I want fewer batty polls. nt procon Feb 2017 #27

I reject the premise that those are the only options TDale313 Feb 2017 #30

Reality doesn't care what you reject. nt stevenleser Feb 2017 #32

I agree with your perspective... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #33

Yeah, but otherwise.... vi5 Feb 2017 #35

Perez did a great job at the DOJ and the voting rights section Gothmog Feb 2017 #31

You identify a paradigm quaker bill Feb 2017 #36