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Honeycombe8

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24. Same here. I thought I was expressing my opinion....

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:07 PM

Feb 2017

I thought I was just expressing my opinion the night of the election, when I said I didn't think Trump had really won all those states, in light of ALL but one poll showing a significant lead by HRC. Just as a matter of common sense...I thought it was at least possible something had been done. Never before since polls have been done have we seen almost all of them so completely wrong....wrong by a LOT.

But I was beaten up for saying that. I thought it was just common sense to have that discussion. What are the odds that all but one poll was way out of whack?

Is that un-American thinking that? I didn't think so. It's not sour grapes. I can accept loss. But that was just so bizarre...it seemed something was wrong.

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Tom Perez: "We need to be looking at whether this election was rigged by Trump & his buddy Putin" [View all] kpete Feb 2017 OP

Not only that, but we also have to investigate election rigging down ballot meow2u3 Feb 2017 #1

Feingold stuck with me; I couldn't believe he didn't win. nt babylonsister Feb 2017 #4

my thought as well... dhill926 Feb 2017 #7

I think you are getting warm! triron Feb 2017 #14

Russia was way deep into Wisconsin Botany Feb 2017 #19

As to the technicalities of how to mess with election results: triron Feb 2017 #29

Then why don't the results in counties that were hand counted versus machine counted mythology Feb 2017 #39

Where in my post did I say one word about vote hacking? Botany Feb 2017 #50

+1, people keep throwing up this strawman of vote hacking as if we're all stupid !!!! uponit7771 Feb 2017 #52

As if giving one stat from the election doesn't change the fact the election(s) were dirty Botany Feb 2017 #55

and I *DO* mean **RIGGED** LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #56

+1, ... and the intel report SAYING the Russia involved themselves in the election on the side of uponit7771 Feb 2017 #58

So Rupert Murdoch's WSJ took a look at one of the few states where recounts are actually possible. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #59

He had a 12 point lead then in a matter of days he was tied INdemo Feb 2017 #30

They (Trumpskies) collaborated with the Russians triron Feb 2017 #32

indeed they did. nt LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #57

That one bothered me too...nt 2naSalit Feb 2017 #42

+ eleventy billion Lucinda Feb 2017 #47

I can't believe it either. calimary Feb 2017 #72

Same here. Same thing I saw in 2004. And results not matching exit polls again, just like Amaryllis Feb 2017 #6

No, just no. Exit polls are riddled with flaws mythology Feb 2017 #40

fact: exit polls only became "riddled with flaws" after 2000. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2017 #45

BINGO!!!!!!! ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #63

You're absolutely correct, google 'red shift' if you want to see how bad it is. diane in sf Feb 2017 #75

BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! ... that was only after 2000 voter purging in Florida did EPs get flawed uponit7771 Feb 2017 #53

True what you said. Hartmann has spoken and written extensively on this and he is very carefull Amaryllis Feb 2017 #67

+1, the Russians can easily hack Crosscheck and there go the votes needed for dems to win uponit7771 Feb 2017 #68

And it was even reported in MSM BEFORE THE ELECTION that Russians hacked Amaryllis Feb 2017 #69

knr triron Feb 2017 #70

+ 1,000 Achilleaze Feb 2017 #16

This needs to go to all read counties that flipped, a good percentage of them are wondering about uponit7771 Feb 2017 #2

Interesting read about hacking elections triron Feb 2017 #15

+1, the "they didn't hack the voting machines" meme is a distraction at best. They don't have to uponit7771 Feb 2017 #17

flip the programmers sarah FAILIN Feb 2017 #28

Trade secret... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #43

too risky? how precisely would a hacker be ID'd, caught, and sufficient evidence found to convict sa TheFrenchRazor Feb 2017 #46

Until we have paper ballots and automatic audits and recounts EVERY TIME, it's all vapor. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #60

what filter did they put Perez's photo through? It looks like he's covered in tiny ants. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #3

Lol Luciferous Feb 2017 #10

You made me LOL...yes ants indeed...NOT a good photo fer sure! angstlessk Feb 2017 #11

I was thinking the same thing. LOL n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2017 #13

I've not seen a lot of pictures of the man and none that close up before Ligyron Feb 2017 #73

He needs to figure how dems lost thousands of seats since 2008 and getting msongs Feb 2017 #5

I was watching msnbc Steve Kornacki election night VelvetPetals Feb 2017 #12

pretty much. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2017 #48

Keep up the good work Mr. Perez... Talk Is Cheap Feb 2017 #8

The right tone and the right perspective. Unvarnished truth. This is encouraging nt delisen Feb 2017 #9

Down ballot too...my GOSH, I can't believe how many people came after me for saying this LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #18

Same here. I thought I was expressing my opinion.... Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #24

we are in the same boat to be sure...Funny how I don't see them here now LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #35

I also thought killing DU on election day was not a coincidence. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #76

I think there was a coordinated effort on many fronts... LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #79

Not only the pre-election polls you cite triron Feb 2017 #37

Yeah evidence doesn't matter. Outrage is all that matters mythology Feb 2017 #41

you have NO evidence that it WASN'T hacked, because, oh yeah, the votes are invisible, and TheFrenchRazor Feb 2017 #49

Yes, that could be done. Could. Not necessarily that it did happen. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #78

It's the discussion that's important. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #77

I like the cut his jib. Botany Feb 2017 #20

Finally, somebody is talking about it Percy Cholmondeley Feb 2017 #21

I believe videohead5 Feb 2017 #22

Exactly. zanana1 Feb 2017 #51

And Remember videohead5 Feb 2017 #64

Same, Comey is a bastard uponit7771 Feb 2017 #54

100% agree with you NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #65

Thank God! BadgerMom Feb 2017 #23

loving him more n more samnsara Feb 2017 #25

Agree and like his comebacks to drumpf on twitter regarding Tom being DNC chair..priceless iluvtennis Feb 2017 #31

Music to my ears blueseas Feb 2017 #26

Perez is ready to go to work, we have lots to accomplish, United we can get on Thinkingabout Feb 2017 #27

This!!!!! AgadorSparticus Feb 2017 #33

ImWithTom. oasis Feb 2017 #34

Let's get to work bdamomma Feb 2017 #36

Yessir! Hekate Feb 2017 #38

Investigate, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2017 #44

I like this guy flamingdem Feb 2017 #61

I hope Tom has read this article BSdetect Feb 2017 #62

Uh yeah... MontanaMama Feb 2017 #66

shameless kick nt LaydeeBug Feb 2017 #71

Don't forget about Rudy/Comey and his buddies at the FBI! Rex Feb 2017 #74

knr triron Feb 2017 #80

keep on front burner!! triron Feb 2017 #81

knr triron Feb 2017 #82