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Stinky The Clown

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Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:29 PM Feb 2017

Stolen Valor or not? [View all]

I served in the Navy during the Viet Nam War era. I was fortunate and never got called to go there. In the process of serving and then getting separated and, ultimately, discharged after serving in the Navy Reserve, I got this for my time and service.



The National Defense Ribbon. Not only did I get one. So did every other person who served. Once out of boot camp, they gave you the medal. No heroics involved.

So anyway, apart from the satisfaction of having served, this is a medal pretty much no one gives a shit about.

In my state, you can get vanity plates with anything on them. You can get plates with the Bronze Star and Purple Heart on them. BUT . . . . . you gotta prove you DESERVE to display those plates.

With all of that as background, here's the stolen valor question. A friend of mine, the wife of my very close friend who died about 5 years ago, has a new boyfriend. While we moved away a few years back, we still stay in touch and see each other frequently. She warned us this new boyfriend would be a Trump voter (she is a Democrat and voted for Hillary). After the election I flew my American flag upside down. I *always* fly the flag. Some time later, when they came over, the flag was flying upside down. The next day she called me. Seems the boyfriend has her convinced he was in Viet Nam. Now he tells her that he helped rescue some buddies who used the upside down flag for its intended purpose as a distress signal. Seeing my flag gave him flashbacks. She said.

Would I please take the flag down to protect the new boyfriend's well being.

But you see, here's the thing (the fundamental, pathetic, transparent bullshittiness of the buddy rescue story notwithstanding), on his car he has a vanity plate. This one:



It defies logic that a Viet Nam vet - one who claims to be an actual COMBAT vet - would opt for that plate instead of the one with the Vietnam Service Medal on it. That one actually means something and, I am sure is displayed proudly by those authorized to display it.

But no. "Audie Murphy" has the bullshit medal on his plate.

So wuddaya think? Combat vet or BULLSHITTER?

In my view, there are few forms of moral bankruptcy that exceed stolen valor.

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Stolen Valor or not? [View all] Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 OP
Maybe the DMV ran out of the Vietnam Service Medal plates Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #1
The DMV prints them as they are ordered jmowreader Feb 2017 #37
My post was snark, nothing more, nothing less.... Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #41
I'm not saying he's a bullshitter...but it smells like bullshit Docreed2003 Feb 2017 #2
In my state, the County Veterans Service Office issue the authorization for the plate Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #3
Oh I don't doubt that... Docreed2003 Feb 2017 #5
Also, it wouldn't be unusual Docreed2003 Feb 2017 #6
I have seen that same story before pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #4
Sounds like the new boyfriend wishes he could forget Vietnam HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #7
The question is whether or not he was ever there. nt pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #8
Heres the deal people.......... Old Vet Feb 2017 #51
Uh . . . Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 #9
It's most convenient to accept at face... LanternWaste Feb 2017 #34
Could be a salute to all service members in American history. nt oasis Feb 2017 #10
What could be? The story about rescuing buddies under the upside down flag and having flashbacks? Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 #11
The license plate may be his salute to all Americans who ever served. nt oasis Feb 2017 #21
If you mean the medal on his plate (NDSM), it wasn't created until 1950 pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #12
The symbolism may be what the guy is trying to convey. In that case, oasis Feb 2017 #23
I've heard that story before... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #13
See #4 pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #14
I did see that... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #15
You'd think troops in distress would get on the radio, pop smoke, fire off some rounds... pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #18
I thought everyone in the "theater" 2naSalit Feb 2017 #20
I was called in to rescue a unit in distress 2 or 3 times pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #24
... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #31
The geedunk medal. lpbk2713 Feb 2017 #16
You were a graduating class ahead of me! Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 #17
GLakes RTC Co 261 lpbk2713 Feb 2017 #19
I don't recall the company number, but it was January and colder than a well digger's ass. Stinky The Clown Feb 2017 #22
Camp Nimitz, San Diego 1967 USN madokie Feb 2017 #28
Just give the snowflake a trigger warning next time. NBachers Feb 2017 #25
Hit him up roscoeroscoe Feb 2017 #26
You can request records via the Freedom of Information Act Lee-Lee Feb 2017 #27
Just ask him what unit HAB911 Feb 2017 #29
Speaking of serving HAB911 Feb 2017 #30
I just got a ribbon Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #32
Me, too. I wonder if there's a specialty plate for MineralMan Feb 2017 #35
Lol and my perfect attendance ribbon! Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #38
Yes, and my good conduct ribbon. I want a personalize plate with that one. MineralMan Feb 2017 #39
... Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #42
Lucky you! Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #43
I was an Army draftee and I got a Good Conduct pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #48
You needed three years active service to qualify. Three years, not one. Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #49
There also is a 1-year eligibility provision pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #50
Ah, but you did serve more than three years, total Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #52
They can only credit enlisted time for the GCM; commissioned time can't be counted pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #54
Well then, I got screwed by the Army Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #55
Next time he comes over turn it rightside up as he is pulling up. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #33
Census that ended in 1995 showed that of the 9+ million who claimed to be Viet Nam vets. jack69 Feb 2017 #36
It seems like I'm in places more and more where someone MineralMan Feb 2017 #40
It's been my experience that most combat vets don't brag NWCorona Feb 2017 #47
Seems highly probable that he's full of BS Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #44
FOIA his ass..... msanthrope Feb 2017 #45
This is a tough one but I think the bigger question is why didn't he hash it out one vet to another NWCorona Feb 2017 #46
Stolen Valor Berlin Vet Feb 2017 #53
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An Update Stinky The Clown May 2017 #57
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