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In reply to the discussion: Tom Perez: "We need to be looking at whether this election was rigged by Trump & his buddy Putin" [View all]TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)49. you have NO evidence that it WASN'T hacked, because, oh yeah, the votes are invisible, and
there was NO *statewide* HAND/EYE recount in any of the states in question. selected recounts don't mean a thing, because to start with, an intelligent hacker who was shifting votes to Trump, would quite likely choose to make the largest adjustments in 1. areas where due to republican control, or local regulations, a meaningful recount will never happen, and 2. large precincts where even a small percentage of vote theft will create a large # of votes. the margin of error in the states in question was miniscule, so it wouldn't take very much. secondly, even some of the "hand recounts" that are done are very limited and imperfect.
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Tom Perez: "We need to be looking at whether this election was rigged by Trump & his buddy Putin" [View all]
kpete
Feb 2017
OP
Then why don't the results in counties that were hand counted versus machine counted
mythology
Feb 2017
#39
+1, people keep throwing up this strawman of vote hacking as if we're all stupid !!!!
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#52
As if giving one stat from the election doesn't change the fact the election(s) were dirty
Botany
Feb 2017
#55
+1, ... and the intel report SAYING the Russia involved themselves in the election on the side of
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#58
So Rupert Murdoch's WSJ took a look at one of the few states where recounts are actually possible.
lagomorph777
Feb 2017
#59
Same here. Same thing I saw in 2004. And results not matching exit polls again, just like
Amaryllis
Feb 2017
#6
You're absolutely correct, google 'red shift' if you want to see how bad it is.
diane in sf
Feb 2017
#75
BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! ... that was only after 2000 voter purging in Florida did EPs get flawed
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#53
True what you said. Hartmann has spoken and written extensively on this and he is very carefull
Amaryllis
Feb 2017
#67
+1, the Russians can easily hack Crosscheck and there go the votes needed for dems to win
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#68
This needs to go to all read counties that flipped, a good percentage of them are wondering about
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#2
+1, the "they didn't hack the voting machines" meme is a distraction at best. They don't have to
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#17
too risky? how precisely would a hacker be ID'd, caught, and sufficient evidence found to convict sa
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2017
#46
Until we have paper ballots and automatic audits and recounts EVERY TIME, it's all vapor.
lagomorph777
Feb 2017
#60
what filter did they put Perez's photo through? It looks like he's covered in tiny ants.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#3
The right tone and the right perspective. Unvarnished truth. This is encouraging nt
delisen
Feb 2017
#9
Down ballot too...my GOSH, I can't believe how many people came after me for saying this
LaydeeBug
Feb 2017
#18
you have NO evidence that it WASN'T hacked, because, oh yeah, the votes are invisible, and
TheFrenchRazor
Feb 2017
#49
Agree and like his comebacks to drumpf on twitter regarding Tom being DNC chair..priceless
iluvtennis
Feb 2017
#31
Perez is ready to go to work, we have lots to accomplish, United we can get on
Thinkingabout
Feb 2017
#27