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DanTex

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Mon Feb 27, 2017, 08:41 PM Feb 2017

In truth, we should all be very grateful for Heidi Heitkamp, Joe Manchin, and so-called "DINOs". [View all]

Do I share all their views? Hell no. I'm way to the left of either of them. I will happily oppose specific views that they have which I am opposed to. And I don't want them setting the agenda for the party as a whole.

But, big picture, they managed to win Democratic senate seats in North Dakota and West Virginia. That's huge. It's breaking the GOP's serve. Sure, Dem senators from blue states are going to be more progressive, but that's because there are more progressive voters in blue states.

Of course, this does not apply to conservative Dems from blue states. E.g., I think Dianne Feinstein is a waste of a California senator, CA is capable of electing someone far more progressive.

I am a strong progressive, but I am also rational. And being rational means understanding that we aren't going to be able to elect Sanderses and Warrens across the country. In fact, if I had to choose a progressive MVP, I'd probably go with Sherrod Brown, a very progressive senator from the purple state of Ohio.

Making progress in the real world means being smart. Primarying centrist Dems in red states is stupid. Pick our battles, and don't let ideological purity get in the way of winning.

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Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #1
Do GOPers push left-leaning GOP reps in blue states? leftstreet Feb 2017 #2
No Republican alive today would support SP Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2017 #4
Yes. For example, Susan Collins. She is to their party what our DINOs are to us. n/t pnwmom Feb 2017 #16
Breitbart seems to be very grateful for Manchin as well. QC Feb 2017 #3
Yeah well... Rex Feb 2017 #9
AT LEAST MANCHIN IS A DEMOCRAT!!1!!!11 QC Feb 2017 #12
With logic like that Rex Feb 2017 #15
Hmm, Breitbart wrote some articles about him, therefore we should give his seat to the GOP? DanTex Feb 2017 #17
Regarding Feinstein-CA, we have to make sure the Democratic primary challenger of Feinstein comes in nkpolitics1212 Feb 2017 #5
While I'd love to see Manchin primaried out because of his stand on women's healthcare Warpy Feb 2017 #6
West Virginia is redder than Nebraska crazycatlady Feb 2017 #10
Even moderate Democrats like Joe Manchin are better than the likely GOP alternative. Willie Pep Feb 2017 #7
Thank you. Thank you! THANK YOU!! Staph Feb 2017 #8
+1 brer cat Feb 2017 #11
It would be way more effective to put that energy into developing local & state progressives wildeyed Feb 2017 #13
No, it wouldn't. If you want to change things you need to do outreach and change minds. stevenleser Feb 2017 #14
Will you be grateful when they vote to kill the ACA? alarimer Feb 2017 #18
Should we feel the same if their votes place a new Justice on the Court? kentuck Feb 2017 #19
Heitkamp only managed to eke out liberalhistorian Feb 2017 #20
Beggars can't be choosers, the harsh reality is that we need everyone identified as a Democrat. FreeStateDemocrat Feb 2017 #21
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