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In reply to the discussion: Well, once again, we the people have lost. [View all]
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)279. "from a for profit corporation."
There are many not-for-profit insurance companies and also mutual insurance companies (which are owned by
the policy holders).
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Of course you don't. Those with income below 133% of the poverty level will be eligible for Medicaid
bornskeptic
Jun 2012
#112
How does this work? It used to be that those who were indigent were covered directly by
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#226
Actually, it *is* an income tax. Specifically, it is 1% of your taxable income for a few years.
ieoeja
Jun 2012
#249
And that tax does NOT get you health care or health insurance, it's strictly a penalty.
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#73
Pretty much. Especially if your state refuses to establish an exchange.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#89
Even if the tax assists the exchanges, it only means that after paying a tax, you still have to buy
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#165
If they do go bankrupt, then maybe Congress will have to give us single payer? nt
freedom fighter jh
Jun 2012
#197
Or.. you can realize that we're already paying a shitload of money to cover the uninsured already nt
progressivebydesign
Jun 2012
#67
I believe there's a misunderstanding because USSC compared mandatory ins to a tax, which
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#85
And I guarantee that there are people working at blocking every one of those loopholes.
Swede
Jun 2012
#40
And let's not forget they had two years to hike them ridiculously in preparation.
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#48
I gather you're not a bookkeeper or accountant or anything that would allow you to
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#95
I'm an actuary, have worked mostly on retirement plans but also on health insurance.
eomer
Jun 2012
#121
You gave me no additional facts. That bit of subterfuge has been known from the beginning,
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#167
Cool - so based on this, we the people are winning with this legislation, not losing.
klook
Jun 2012
#216
I gather you've never been through a government audit looking for all those hidden/improper charges.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#122
Yes, been audited (well the companies I worked for) for payroll, workmens' comp, and sales/use tax.
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#169
BTW, as a young accoutant I participated in auditing a very large TX company,
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#175
i seem to recall reading that the 80-85% mandate was actually lower than current practice. if
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#223
Those with turnips for brains will fight this law just like the birthers and their insanity
DainBramaged
Jun 2012
#126
So what other Republican policy will you sleepwalk your way into supporting? n/t
MadHound
Jun 2012
#148
You're being hateful in calling people names, but accuse others of hatefulness. Classic you.
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#177
Oh brother... I am tired of paying for uninsured people thru my taxes now.
progressivebydesign
Jun 2012
#72
Oh brother... I am tired of hearing that bullshit. The government collects taxes from
Autumn
Jun 2012
#152
thank you. thank you. (took the words right out of my mouth - and then, some more! :)
inna
Jun 2012
#320
I thought that post was being sarcastic so I rec'd it. But thanks for the information. Very telling.
freshwest
Jun 2012
#242
I have no problem paying for the uninsured poor. I do have a problem paying for the 38%...
joshcryer
Jun 2012
#268
Will, we both know that what the president says does not necessarily translate to what gets done
xiamiam
Jun 2012
#27
Your bitter tears, when so many are rightly celebrating, are nectar to my soul...nt
SidDithers
Jun 2012
#38
It is remarkably like a GOP presser, ain't it? It's hilarious to hear their reactions on the radio.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2012
#99
not to 40 million uninsured people it isn't, and those with pre-exisiting conditions, and those
still_one
Jun 2012
#8
The government doesn't need to collect more revenue from the middle class..
girl gone mad
Jun 2012
#164
And you think that the provision prohibiting raising premiums without justification...
cynatnite
Jun 2012
#52
Really it shouldn't take much inside trading to see what some money grubbers have in mind
nolabels
Jun 2012
#162
cut out the little guys; what's so surprising? they've been doing it for years -- there are fewer
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#241
THere have been many such posts the past few weeks, "Obamacare helps ME, so..."
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#82
Actually, ACA does NOT benefit ME at all now, and NEVER will. It ain't about me.
freshwest
Jun 2012
#94
BS. You have NO IDEA if I will benefit, as it's impossible for you to know. What nonsense.
freshwest
Jun 2012
#185
WRONG!! You are the one saying you will never benefit. I'm saying you have no idea.
Dawgs
Jun 2012
#186
I think all of us know personally someone who has or will benefit from this.
AngryOldDem
Jun 2012
#107
K&R. They will take their mandated trillions and crush every reform in the bill
grahamhgreen
Jun 2012
#12
Got that right... Why else would they scream so much? The ACA has provisions to hire the people who
freshwest
Jun 2012
#105
More like refuses to get it. I'm done arguing with the snarks and RW talking points.
freshwest
Jun 2012
#187
Yes, it is strange. Any good news for any Democrat and it's a war zone here.
freshwest
Jun 2012
#239
Hum, some aspirin and re-cutting the stems might help. Enjoy her birthday when she gets off!
freshwest
Jun 2012
#246
I disagree with you, MadHound - The penalty, er, tax for not buying insurance is so low...
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#14
You seem to think the tax get something akin to insurance or healthcare, it doesn't, so how does
Lionessa
Jun 2012
#184
Since when has adapting Republican policy ever been a step in the right direction?
MadHound
Jun 2012
#61
for many here, if anything Obama promotes wins.. it's the end of life as we know it.
dionysus
Jun 2012
#278
I can't count the number of times I've heard a conservative make that argument.
Codeine
Jun 2012
#298
No, it is forcing millions to purchase a product that they may or may not need,
MadHound
Jun 2012
#74
how will they be worse off? they don't have to pay for the care of anyone who doesn't buy their
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#251
i imagine that a lot of the scofflaws will be on the lower end of the income spectrum & thus more
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#256
Where to begin? For one thing, it's not a "mandated monopoly" unless there is only one
Nye Bevan
Jun 2012
#75
The Heritage foundation version did not include regulation and price controls.
Odin2005
Jun 2012
#150
We currently have the most expensive but far from the best healthcare program in the world ...
spin
Jun 2012
#100
I disagree, my beautiful daughter disagrees, my beloved ex disagrees, all of us positively affected
DainBramaged
Jun 2012
#124
The Health Insurance Industry wins big either way. At least with this ruling more people will have
gateley
Jun 2012
#179
What I mean is that if the 20% doubles with higher prices, their profits double...
kentuck
Jun 2012
#207
I agree on all counts, but pointing out the right wing victory here is frowned upon /nt
Dragonfli
Jun 2012
#229
Ego-inflated theatrics, it appears that the DU possibly is not healthy for some people.Ask yourself,
patrice
Jun 2012
#230
No, just tired of wasting my time with close-minded demigogs. I have never seen
patrice
Jun 2012
#287
In short, who died and made you god? The inability to admit you're only talking about PROBABILITIY
patrice
Jun 2012
#290
You have no authority to speak for the people, only yourself. And YOU are wrong.
FarLeftFist
Jun 2012
#238
Oh enough already. We don't need the left's version of the Tea Party around here.
RBInMaine
Jun 2012
#240
Single payer will follow, baby steps, unless that certain someone is on the payroll
DainBramaged
Jun 2012
#258
Gee, you seem to know a lot about me for somebody who's only been around since Dec.
MadHound
Jun 2012
#309
No, after this decision, there will be little pressure on the insurance companies
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#292
"we"? Is that you and the horse you rode in on? Who gave you authority to define "we"? nt
patrice
Jun 2012
#291
Then why did big insurance companies' stocks go down after the ruling in favor of mandate?
jenmito
Jun 2012
#308
So, in two, three years, when your insurance premiums are shooting through the roof
MadHound
Jun 2012
#332