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frazzled

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18. Let me set straight a few things you've said

Reply to Igel (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 07:03 PM

Jun 2012

The bill is expected to reduce expenses (not increase them) and has definitely been analyzed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office to REDUCE the deficit by some $1.3 trillion over the next decade.

The reason Mass. did not lower expenses is because they only focused on coverage when they passed their bill, vowing to tackle the cost part of the equation later. (They're starting to do that now). By contrast, the ACA tackled coverage AND costs at the same time. So you can't compare this federal bill with the MA one on that count.

The only problem for increased deficits and costs to citizens would have been had we done nothing about healthcare.

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Need help explaining the health care law [View all] caraher Jun 2012 OP

My understanding donco Jun 2012 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author caraher Jun 2012 #3

Tell them families earning up to $88,200 will qualify for credits to help buy it frazzled Jun 2012 #2

Thanks! caraher Jun 2012 #9

And that's the law's Achilles' heel. Igel Jun 2012 #13

Let me set straight a few things you've said frazzled Jun 2012 #18

Tell them to look up the word "subsidies." Then, there's Medicaid. Next have them check "dumbass." Hoyt Jun 2012 #4

'Democrats taxing the middle class and subsidizing the poor' leftstreet Jun 2012 #5

To be fair to Dems, it's difficult explaining anything to birthers, flatearthers, callous bigots,etc Hoyt Jun 2012 #8

Exactly and these are people who don't listen anyway treestar Jun 2012 #23

Well, I would say their concerns are valid. truedelphi Jun 2012 #6

ACA does a lot to raise the price of the product... Southerner Jun 2012 #10

I agree that there's a lot wrong with the Heritage Foundation solution we're stuck with caraher Jun 2012 #11

Some of what you have said is not accurate. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #19

That is not what the newspapers that covered the pre-exisiting truedelphi Jun 2012 #20

Newspapers are often inaccurate. Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #21

Well maybe this will help you figure out the cricumstances of the truedelphi Jun 2012 #22

You won't get any argument from me that the bill still leaves far too many people Ms. Toad Jun 2012 #25

The way I understand it EC Jun 2012 #27

When my co-workers started bemoaning ObamaCare this morning... Iggo Jun 2012 #7

Ha! That's what I did, too, today at work! It did shut everyone up! nt Nay Jun 2012 #17

Actually, Larry O'Donnell explained it best. mzmolly Jun 2012 #12

I'd tell them to wait until 12/13 before getting an answer. Igel Jun 2012 #14

My take (this is general and broad - so go lightly) chowder66 Jun 2012 #15

A good thing for seniors socialaidem Jun 2012 #16

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Send them to this online calculator... PoliticAverse Jun 2012 #26

This link should help you. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #28

thanks! <nt> caraher Jul 2012 #29