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The Velveteen Ocelot

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53. He's no better than he ever was.

Fri Mar 3, 2017, 06:28 PM

Mar 2017

It's just that Trump is even worse, which - if you compare them - makes Bush look relatively good. But if you look at him in absolute terms, he still deserves to have his grave danced or pissed on when he's dead (and I hope I live long enough to be able to do that). When Trump is dead (and I especially hope I live long enough to see that day), his grave should not only be danced and pissed on, it should be buried under tons of concrete, like Chernobyl. Trump's industrial-strength badness doesn't make Bush better than he ever was or deserving of sympathetic thoughts, but comparing the two reminds us that no matter how bad things, or people, can be, they can always get worse.

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So some on this site [View all] choie Mar 2017 OP

Yep. demmiblue Mar 2017 #1

Amazing how he has been rehabilitated. dhol82 Mar 2017 #2

I don't think we're forgetting he was the worst president we'd had Warpy Mar 2017 #55

It's crazy bravenak Mar 2017 #3

He was also a popular vote loser who stole an election through underhanded tactics. LisaM Mar 2017 #37

Yep, I never felt like he was legitimate bravenak Mar 2017 #45

Yes. murielm99 Mar 2017 #60

Yup and I didn't forget about this either NWCorona Mar 2017 #48

What a fuggin weirdo bravenak Mar 2017 #69

I will not speak well of him. MineralMan Mar 2017 #4

I'll say that at least he was man enough to take the roasting at the Correspondent's Dinner. Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #33

When you stand him next to Don Juanabe TexasProgresive Mar 2017 #5

No he's not choie Mar 2017 #7

he still thinks what he did was right. Cobalt Violet Mar 2017 #65

He is a war criminal, but the current asshole is a couple orders of magnitude worse. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2017 #98

I'm not old enough to have a first-hand opinion of what life was like under GWB butdiduvote Mar 2017 #6

Tell that to choie Mar 2017 #9

And the people who lost their houses to foreclosure, and people who lost jobs, LisaM Mar 2017 #42

I was 18 when we lost our home to Katrina. Norbert9 Mar 2017 #54

I guess I hate DT as a person more. LisaM Mar 2017 #57

I know what you mean.. coco22 Mar 2017 #83

Now I am curious. Can I ask how old you are? StevieM Mar 2017 #72

I'm not too young to remember him butdiduvote Mar 2017 #75

OK, thanks for explaining. Sorry if I made you uncomfortable by asking your age. I was curious. StevieM Mar 2017 #77

I hate him by the thousands eleny Mar 2017 #8

Hey, I had the "impeach W" bumper stickers ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #10

This. I wanted W behind bars. I will CELEBRATE the day DFT dies. Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #47

The whole world will rejoice with you. dalton99a Mar 2017 #91

All things are relative... MedusaX Mar 2017 #11

Bush's action were choie Mar 2017 #14

He also caused Trump to be elected, in a roundabout way. LisaM Mar 2017 #46

No. I have seen qualified comments, emphasizing that ONLY in comparison hlthe2b Mar 2017 #12

So a war criminal choie Mar 2017 #13

You have a very strange sense of relativism... hlthe2b Mar 2017 #16

Look up the definition of war criminal choie Mar 2017 #23

I am defending no one, newbie hlthe2b Mar 2017 #25

I have been here for over a decade... choie Mar 2017 #30

The idea that W is more palatable than Trump, advanced seriously, Occulus Mar 2017 #78

Putting false words/attributions in other DU's "mouths" is a very RW thing to do hlthe2b Mar 2017 #85

It certainly seems to be an issue for you.... Occulus Mar 2017 #87

Again, you are being intensely disingenuous and disrespectful hlthe2b Mar 2017 #88

I'm just saying it's disgusting to be favorable to either compared to the other. Occulus Mar 2017 #89

Just because they are both contemptible, does not mean that there are not differences to consider... hlthe2b Mar 2017 #92

Anything can be overdone, even absolutism. :) Hortensis Mar 2017 #18

W wasn't a war criminal in his 1st six weeks in office. Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #44

Yes, because Trump is a fascist and W was not. alarimer Mar 2017 #81

Yes, he is a war criminal fun n serious Mar 2017 #15

Be that as it may BainsBane Mar 2017 #17

I still feel the same way about him and the rest of his administration Solly Mack Mar 2017 #19

Amen, Solly N/T choie Mar 2017 #32

Thank you, choie. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #93

Exactly. Phentex Mar 2017 #38

Me, too. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #90

OH MY GOD THANK YOU for being ever so right dembotoz Mar 2017 #20

Bush himself seems to be enjoying his reinvention leftstreet Mar 2017 #21

45 is the best thing that ever happened to 43 Cosmocat Mar 2017 #52

Yep - it's beyond shocking malaise Mar 2017 #22

It's a matter of degree rock Mar 2017 #24

he was also quite possibly the worst president ever. unblock Mar 2017 #26

I don't disagree that Bush was a terrible president but I think what people are trying to say StevieM Mar 2017 #73

He and Michelle are good friends....so weird HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #27

Sad when we thought nothing could be worse than bush and now we have hitler II liberal N proud Mar 2017 #28

It's just an illustration of how far we've sunk with Dump. Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #29

All the men, women, children and babies that were killed under his 8 years in office. caroldansen Mar 2017 #31

It's just incredible... choie Mar 2017 #34

hey HEY Skittles Mar 2017 #41

K & R!!!!!!!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #35

At my age I thought nothing could shock me, but posts extolling the glorious procon Mar 2017 #36

THAT HAS TO STOP Skittles Mar 2017 #39

Well... ananda Mar 2017 #40

Unlike Trump he does have nocalflea Mar 2017 #67

YES, he is a WAR CRIMINAL and he joked about it. Tikki Mar 2017 #43

I only wanted Bush tried, convicted, and imprisoned. 11 Bravo Mar 2017 #49

This! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #100

Thank you lunatica Mar 2017 #50

Relax... FarPoint Mar 2017 #51

He's no better than he ever was. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #53

It just proves that everything is relative world wide wally Mar 2017 #56

Yep. Iggo Mar 2017 #58

In the immortal words of Neil Young... WheelWalker Mar 2017 #59

Truly, it's just the symptoms of trauma. byronius Mar 2017 #61

This. Silver Gaia Mar 2017 #63

Dubya's military leadership skills led America into 9-11 and his business skills left our economy in keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #62

it has more to do with how bad trump is JI7 Mar 2017 #64

Yes, and it lowers the bar for the next turn of election fraud. gordianot Mar 2017 #66

who on this site is speaking of GWB in KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #68

The OP is a reaction to this thread SecularMotion Mar 2017 #71

I'm not and never will, but I can understand the sentiment, given such photos as: WinkyDink Mar 2017 #70

There would have been no 9/11 and no Iraq war under President Gore. Tatiana Mar 2017 #74

He is, indeed. If he wanted to rehabilitate his Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #76

Kick,kick,kicked&Recommended! coco22 Mar 2017 #79

I haven't done that but who the hell are YOU to play board nanny scolding others KittyWampus Mar 2017 #80

Thank you. GoCubsGo Mar 2017 #82

Who the hell am I? choie Mar 2017 #97

TRUE, fuck bush, trump, cheney heaven05 Mar 2017 #84

Like I said before, mountain grammy Mar 2017 #86

not incompatible statements: 1) Bush was awful. 2) Trump is worse. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2017 #94

+1 dalton99a Mar 2017 #99

He is. Shouldn't be out making the rounds on talk shows like he did nothing. Shameful. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2017 #95

I don't necessarily agree with you about people on DU, but... herding cats Mar 2017 #96

It just shows how fucked up things are Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #101

Thank you for having the guts to post this. He is a fucking akbacchus_BC Mar 2017 #102

a sad but ugly fact DonCoquixote Mar 2017 #103

An objective 'compare and contrast' between two negatives will LanternWaste Mar 2017 #104