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MADem

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94. Made in Senate committee, as testimony prior to Ashcroft's

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #64)

Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:31 AM

Mar 2017

appointment as AG.....

Same deal. Same job.

Speech is "talking." It's not necessarily "Forescore and Seven Years Ago." It could be testimony before a committee (Ashcroft/Sessions, e.g.) or it could be the reading of classified documents (Mike Gravel). You don't have to be in the well, debating, you can be in a committee room at a green baize table, responding to queries.

The bottom line is that they can't be "questioned in any other place" about this--which obviates any punishment for their crimes. The FBI or the judiciary system isn't going to come frog march him off for lying--he could get scolded after-the-fact by the committee chairman, but the horse has left that barn...he's no longer a Senator, and he's confirmed. Grassley made sure of that by ramming his confirmation through (ya gotta have friends, I guess).

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Nothing will happen with Sessions. He is a Republican. [View all] yuiyoshida Mar 2017 OP

I See We Agree. Based On What We See So Far Expecting Anything Is Wishful Thinking. TheMastersNemesis Mar 2017 #1

Absolutely which is why if they want, they NEVER have to give up power... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #2

Are you old enough to remember when Flynn resigned? N/T Big Blue Marble Mar 2017 #3

It takes integrity to Resign... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #5

Flynn had no integrity. Big Blue Marble Mar 2017 #10

Who is going to bring the heat? yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #14

Who brought the heat on Flynn? Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #20

They don't have to play ball any more...they OWN THE DAMN BALL... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #23

They owned the ball when Flynn went bye bye. Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #27

If you think that will happen with Sessions I think you are wrong... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #29

He lied to congress they are setting precedent someone needs to point out the abject hypocrisy onecaliberal Mar 2017 #4

It doesn't matter what he did... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #6

Lying to congress is a crime. The Dems need to refuse to show up until the onecaliberal Mar 2017 #7

I KNOW ITS A CRIME...hello? yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #11

I think there are still Dems in congress who CAN refuse to show up. Without a quorum onecaliberal Mar 2017 #13

I Think they have ALL THE CARDS... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #16

All the more reason for democrats to stop showing up onecaliberal Mar 2017 #17

All the President has to do is fire the Department heads and yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #21

Technically, because of what he was (a Senator), it was not a crime. MADem Mar 2017 #28

Not if you're a sitting Senator, it isn't. They're ALLOWED to lie. MADem Mar 2017 #26

See? there you go... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #31

Are you suggesting... tonedevil Mar 2017 #36

first of all look at this.. yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #37

That may enter into it... tonedevil Mar 2017 #50

I think a President Pence would be worse... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #52

You get no argument... tonedevil Mar 2017 #55

It's always possible, however, than Pence will be dragged down the mountain along with the rest. randome Mar 2017 #79

I would love to see that happen, because yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #81

And of all the things to spend resources on, they make that one of their primary targets. randome Mar 2017 #83

blindness and pure stupidity yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #84

The fact that the "diplomat" he met with is one of the Russian government's MADem Mar 2017 #48

That isn't this situation. He lied under oath, he wasn't making a speech still_one Mar 2017 #41

Neither was John Ashcroft. MADem Mar 2017 #43

I guess people don't believe it... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #47

He could still be shown the door--just not for perjury. MADem Mar 2017 #49

yeah maybe yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #51

If the narrative that "Sessions colluded with a Russian spy" sticks, MADem Mar 2017 #56

Yup! yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #57

But it was not a "speech or debate". It was a confirmation hearing (nt) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #62

It absolutely WAS "speech." It was response to queries (speech) during a hearing. MADem Mar 2017 #63

Why would they add "or debate" if they wanted "speech" to mean "any words"? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #64

Made in Senate committee, as testimony prior to Ashcroft's MADem Mar 2017 #94

No, made by Ashcroft in 2000, on the Senate floor muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #95

I don't see that dog hunting. I'm sorry-I just don't. MADem Mar 2017 #96

No, he wasn't "at work" - he was applying for a new job, as Attorney General muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #97

Doesn't matter--he was STILL a Senator, in his workplace. MADem Mar 2017 #98

He was under oath during a confirmation Cosmocat Mar 2017 #68

Doesn't matter. He was engaged in speech (i.e., talking) MADem Mar 2017 #93

see #26 yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #33

This information was LEAKED. MADem Mar 2017 #8

LETS say the FBI goes after him... Trump can pardon him... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #12

No, they aren't "in charge of everything." MADem Mar 2017 #19

I doubt anything will happen, too. herding cats Mar 2017 #9

He """technically""" didn't do anything wrong. MADem Mar 2017 #24

Ah, I hadn't considered that lovely loophole. herding cats Mar 2017 #89

The optics are horrible--but he won't be "gotten" on perjury. MADem Mar 2017 #92

Remember what the trump people said to the ethics branch about Conway shilling for Ivanka? TeamPooka Mar 2017 #15

There is no democracy any longer... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #18

and their base will cheer them when they burn the Constitution. nt TeamPooka Mar 2017 #22

Absolutely right... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #25

I don't believe you need Congress to file perjury charges against the attorney general. Couldn't still_one Mar 2017 #30

what power do they have? yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #32

He committed purjury under oath. Federal Attorney's can do it if they have the evidence still_one Mar 2017 #39

again Read... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #40

I did read it. He was under oath. This is the reason the bush administration still_one Mar 2017 #42

if you read it you will know he is untouchable.. yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #44

It will be for the courts to decide still_one Mar 2017 #45

He will never be brought to court yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #46

agreed still_one Mar 2017 #53

No--the Constitution allows sitting Senators to lie their asses off. MADem Mar 2017 #54

ok, thanks still_one Mar 2017 #60

the victory here would be for sessions to recuse himself lapfog_1 Mar 2017 #34

he is allowed to lie... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #35

I don't understand why a senator can lie but that president Clinton was impeached for doing so yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #70

Weren't the Republicans in the majority during that time too? yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #73

I think, even if he does try to brazen it out, that'll be the minimum result. nt MADem Mar 2017 #58

This is America 2017 world wide wally Mar 2017 #38

Chris Cillizza of WaPo disagrees: ginnyinWI Mar 2017 #59

I never said "There is nothing to see here" I simply stated the fact that the yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #61

Well, there's 150 million of us and we're right meadowlander Mar 2017 #65

150 MILLION of us maybe but they are the law makers... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #66

No, they can't "damn well do as they please" because they are facing reelection in two years meadowlander Mar 2017 #90

Worse yet DFW Mar 2017 #67

Or blame it on Obama yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #72

Democrats will drop this quicker than their 'fight' for Garland. nt RandiFan1290 Mar 2017 #69

He lied to Congress. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #71

see post #26 yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #74

I see this the same as you madokie Mar 2017 #75

Just saw this.. yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #76

When appropriate he says madokie Mar 2017 #80

Yea ... Friday I am going to buy 6 ounces of legal Medical Marijuana yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #82

I'm jealous madokie Mar 2017 #88

Ya know for a while yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #91

dont understimate the stench of russia all over conservatives and 2018 is coming beachbum bob Mar 2017 #77

i hope it won't go away... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #78

sessions is an evil opportunistic ass...gotta love karma beachbum bob Mar 2017 #87

I am not completely optimistic get the red out Mar 2017 #85

Yeah that's our only hope... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #86