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25. Maybe so. However, just for anyone who is thinking that re: it being a "tax"
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:07 PM
Jun 2012

I'll post an excerpt from the opinion that Roberts wrote, in which he explains it was clearly not *intended* to be a tax but still is for the purposes of the Constitution:

4. CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS delivered the opinion of the Court with respect to Part III–C, concluding that the individual mandate may be upheld as within Congress’s power under the Taxing Clause. Pp. 33– 44.

(a) The Affordable Care Act describes the “{s}hared responsibility payment” as a “penalty,” not a “tax.” That label is fatal to the appli- cation of the Anti-Injunction Act. It does not, however, control whether an exaction is within Congress’s power to tax. In answering that constitutional question, this Court follows a functional approach, “{d}isregarding the designation of the exaction, and viewing its substance and application.” United States v. Constantine, 296 U. S. 287, 294. Pp. 33–35.

(b) Such an analysis suggests that the shared responsibility payment may for constitutional purposes be considered a tax. The payment is not so high that there is really no choice but to buy health insurance; the payment is not limited to willful violations, as penal- ties for unlawful acts often are; and the payment is collected solely by the IRS through the normal means of taxation. Cf. Bailey v. Drexel Furniture Co., 259 U. S. 20, 36–37. None of this is to say that pay- ment is not intended to induce the purchase of health insurance. But the mandate need not be read to declare that failing to do so is un- lawful. Neither the Affordable Care Act nor any other law attaches negative legal consequences to not buying health insurance, beyond requiring a payment to the IRS. And Congress’s choice of language— stating that individuals “shall” obtain insurance or pay a “penalty”— does not require reading §5000A as punishing unlawful conduct. It may also be read as imposing a tax on those who go without insur- ance. See New York v. United States, 505 U. S. 144, 169–174. Pp. 35–40.

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oh ok SunsetDreams Jun 2012 #1
Because the $900 we are already paying will be redirected toward Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #2
I agree. It's only for the horses who won't drink the water after sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #3
BULLSHIT, THERE'S NO COLLECTION ENFORCEMENT OF THE "TAX" UNDER ACA uponit7771 Jun 2012 #4
B.S. back at you. former9thward Jun 2012 #6
Holy Shit! So THAT'S the new Jobs Program! leftstreet Jun 2012 #9
I do think you have wandered in the wrong place... n/t Inuca Jun 2012 #10
Why because I answered a poster with a fact? former9thward Jun 2012 #12
Taken word for word from the GOP Ways and Means Committee report. sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #14
Factcheck is using assumptions of their own. former9thward Jun 2012 #15
I heard on faux that someone in the repub party said that won't allow for the money to be given a kennedy Jun 2012 #20
I absolutely agree with Obama on this. We are paying more NOW for uninsured... progressivebydesign Jun 2012 #5
we'll see how it shakes out. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #7
That's the claim. Igel Jun 2012 #13
Impoverished people are NOT getting free healthcare leftstreet Jun 2012 #17
Thank You! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #18
There's no staging any sort of logical debate with the Fox Ministry Of Propaganda, Obama. Initech Jun 2012 #8
A great demonstration of staunch conviction & leadership skills by President Obama! hue Jun 2012 #11
The constantly changing story and positions, and people seem to go right along. Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #16
He didn't change his position. The SCOTUS interpreted the mandate in that way ecstatic Jun 2012 #19
The Obama administration argued before the court that it was a tax. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2012 #27
Really? So Obama stating a position and the Supreme Court saying something else NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #21
I took it to mean when Obama once opposed the mandate leftstreet Jun 2012 #22
Maybe so. However, just for anyone who is thinking that re: it being a "tax" NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #25
This will played non stop in every swing state. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2012 #23
I view it as a kicking in for partial payment of your med. bills, since you refuse to kick in like Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #24
your point?? DCBob Jun 2012 #26
Okay... DearAbby Jun 2012 #28
What difference does it make what you call it? sadbear Jun 2012 #29
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