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In reply to the discussion: How the extreme left gave us Nixon, Bush and now Trump [View all]Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)239. I'm not a plant.
I'm a lifelong Democrat.
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And let me guess... which candidate is the only one in history to have "moral positions?"
ehrnst
Mar 2017
#321
This is why trump is about to destroy the human race, thanks for your purity
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2017
#402
I hear that's why Hitler rose to power - the lack of a truly inspirational candidate
ehrnst
Mar 2017
#325
So does history blame Hitler's opponent for being "less likeable" or charismatic for his rise?
ehrnst
Mar 2017
#365
People who understand what a 2 party system is and care about the planet would NEVER
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2017
#403
One's house will never be perfect, nor one's naval. Time to stop gazing upon it
delisen
Mar 2017
#36
Thanks for the reminder about running FOR something. It is so easy to forget.
Jim Beard
Mar 2017
#490
Not enough of the gop to win unless dumbshits scream "but emails" and vote 3rd party
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2017
#405
Yeah, "centrists" like the Congressional Black Caucus and Planned Parenthood....
ehrnst
Mar 2017
#539
The far left will play their purity bullshit again. I want to stomp them in the face
Blue_true
Mar 2017
#113
I hear ya, i do. It will happen again in 2018, you can see it in this thread.
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2017
#408
Looks so yummy now I am hungry and have completely forgotten what this post was about
lunasun
Mar 2017
#80
Stein and Sarandon are two sad people who are proud of their efforts to elect trump
Gothmog
Mar 2017
#96
They arent actually left at all, but that is what they call themselves, yes.
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2017
#416
And you could primary anybody you want but you come together after that, which
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2017
#420
I always thought that people in this country have the right to vote for whomever they want.
milestogo
Mar 2017
#21
They stared into the face of fascism and said they couldn't be bothered to oppose it... nt
sweetloukillbot
Mar 2017
#352
You act like you're watching a porn flick, where the actors have to excite you.
Blue_true
Mar 2017
#119
Oh, so, you've got all the answers. Cool. Maybe you should be running the party.
GoneOffShore
Mar 2017
#22
Yes indeed. Wasn't it a shame that people like Sarandon likely discouraged the "wishy-washy" voter
NurseJackie
Mar 2017
#35
She did that for sure. People are stupid, she capitalized on that fact.
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2017
#424
Zero lessons learned from '08 (inspired turnout), '10 (apathetic midterms), '12 (declining turnout)
KeepItReal
Mar 2017
#73
And the fringe-left FAITHLESS ELECTORS would have handed it to Trump if things had been that close.
NurseJackie
Mar 2017
#31
They prove they cannot be counted on to vote for the Dems, then they cry when the Dems go after the
Foamfollower
Mar 2017
#41
Don't expect Stein to take responsibility for anything. She is worst than Trump. nt
Blue_true
Mar 2017
#122
Nader is responsible for Citizens United and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act
Gothmog
Mar 2017
#32
What part of getting more votes than anyone but Obama in '08 is unclear to you? (nt)
ehrnst
Mar 2017
#385
so whether Dems run a lefty or "centrist" candidate and lose, it's lefties fault?
yurbud
Mar 2017
#60
Only close elections...I wish that you had the power to win...but I have never seen that.
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#82
Well then get your centrists allies to stop blocking the left and stop losing seats.
Rex
Mar 2017
#379
it's what that 10-15% IS. Privatizing public education is not small potatoes for teachers & parents
yurbud
Mar 2017
#64
Part of the problem is lefties think that just because the GOP did it, we can too.
forjusticethunders
Mar 2017
#65
I don't disagree with some of this...but the point seems very divisive and I must say
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#66
Diversion and divisive thread....Keep on topic - Comrade Trump Russian operative
Talk Is Cheap
Mar 2017
#70
Hillary Clinton received 3 million MORE votes than that piece of maggot shit in the wh.
onecaliberal
Mar 2017
#75
It's not denial...it's inaccurate to blame the Left and incendiary
DemocraticSocialist8
Mar 2017
#101
I am living with the effects of the voter suppression laws made possible by Nader
Gothmog
Mar 2017
#104
It's been shown that more Dems voted for Bush than Nader, but no one blames DINO Dems that
DemocraticSocialist8
Mar 2017
#109
So you're just going to repeat the lie even after being shown the numbers that say otherwise?
DemocraticSocialist8
Mar 2017
#159
It's divisive because we should be making the far left our ally. I'm among the far left by the way
JCanete
Mar 2017
#273
You are using far left to define people who want right wingers and racists to succeed, not me.
JCanete
Mar 2017
#307
Stein voters voted for Trump and many of these voters are happy that trump won
Gothmog
Mar 2017
#383
Bullshit! Bobby's assassination gave us Nixon; Tony Scalia gave us Bush; Putin gave us Trump.
Zen Democrat
Mar 2017
#90
There will *always* be fringe leftists, 3rd party, nader, stein voters. ALWAYS.
yodermon
Mar 2017
#126
Whether you like it or not, the radical left played a part in our 2016 loss.
liquid diamond
Mar 2017
#143
The left was not to blame for Nixon in '68, so that part of your title is unfair.
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#148
What you're missing, though, is that there's no widespread public support for "centrism"
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#149
No widespread support for "centrism"? I'll bet more than 60% of the electorate are "centrists".
George II
Mar 2017
#161
"centrist" is what people self-identify as...when you ask what ideas they actually SUPPORT...
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#168
Of course I do. And I will. I'll be posting polling data on that tonight and tomorrow.
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#176
It's nor that you ask for evidence, it's that you keep acting like I can't be trusted
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#217
Single Payer was rejected in Colorado by a huge amount. people can claim anything. the way they
JI7
Mar 2017
#195
so lets stop pretending people support things they don't . it doesn't help if you actually want
JI7
Mar 2017
#208
I didn't pretend. The polls were evidence. A referenda in Colorado doesn't nullify the polls.
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#213
same sex marriage and other gay rights still are not safe. it doesn't help to pretend people support
JI7
Mar 2017
#219
we don't need to pretend candidates are losing because they don't support single payer
JI7
Mar 2017
#226
If their voting behavior has nothing to do with issues, there's nothing we can ever do to recover.
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#233
Quite honestly I don't think the majority of the public even knows what single payer is.
George II
Mar 2017
#257
They get Medicare for all, and before that they supported national health insurance.
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#276
Unfortunately there IS a general ignorance and apathy about the ACA and Medicare....
George II
Mar 2017
#297
Very few people "self-identify" themselves as anything, only those deep into political discussions..
George II
Mar 2017
#255
I campaigned for Hillary all fall and worked to persuade people further left to support her.
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#182
I can back it by referencing the ads the party ran in the fall, and the speeches I heard.
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#285
You set an impossible standard in asking that I prove that different ads would've worked better,
Ken Burch
Mar 2017
#289
"There's no way to prove a speculative outcome." Yes, thank you for admitting that!
NurseJackie
Mar 2017
#290
When are they going to bring that OP rule back of 500 hundred posts or less cannot be done?
nolabels
Mar 2017
#167
Yep, we gotta keep going for those "moderate republicans" who don't fucking exist.
killbotfactory
Mar 2017
#200
First, Idealogical purity isn't the issue. Idealogical diversity is one thing.
JCanete
Mar 2017
#206
I think the problem is that progressives are starting from an entirely wrong framework
forjusticethunders
Mar 2017
#270
Beg to differ: FDR (and to some extent, Adlai Stevenson) gave us Eisenhower.
no_hypocrisy
Mar 2017
#245
Who was it who said: It's easier to fool people than to convince them they were already fooled.
nikibatts
Mar 2017
#293
I didn't put words in your mouth, I quoted you exactly as you have it printed.
Exilednight
Mar 2017
#320
I quoted you verbatim, and it's not my fault your OP is factually inaccurate
Exilednight
Mar 2017
#347
Now you're changing your hypothesis which is still based on a false premise
Exilednight
Mar 2017
#521
How you point out a flaw when you admitted that you didn't read the whole thing
Trumpocalypse
Mar 2017
#404
blame US?? did WE pimp out turnip like the TEEVEE GNEWZ? no. THEY have been pushing the rite wing as
pansypoo53219
Mar 2017
#332
The tens of millions of Republicans and those potential voters sitting out elections...
Orsino
Mar 2017
#364
The left has always been united, it is the centrists that keep selling the party down the river.
Rex
Mar 2017
#418
No I am not, your OP title is all about blame. Did you miss all the other people saying the same?
Rex
Mar 2017
#458
True, but I don't think it's possible when you have people that won't compromise.
Oneironaut
Mar 2017
#511
When speaking to a lot of people about the election, it turned out many stayed
caroldansen
Mar 2017
#506