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joshcryer

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17. And Ron Paul is anti-war...

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:55 PM

Jun 2012

...but pro-death squad.

So we shouldn't point that shit out, because it's OK to support anti-war even if it means pro-death squad.

The talking points used by those against ACA have for the past two years been totally right wing. Some people have been PPR'd for espousing those views from right wing sources themselves.

These so called "Democrats" that wanted to destroy ACA and allow millions of people to suffer, wanted to later on then champion some "single payer" cause for the next few decades as we waited for different health care legislation.

As it stands now a public option in the next 4-5 years would fix much of the problems for ACA and then the public pool could readily be merged in 10-15 years into Medicare for all / single payer. This is a great, fantastic win for progressives. Not for authoritarians who want to see the world burn in a glorious display of Marxist Historical Materialism.

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Hitler liked dogs, so if you like dogs... [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 OP

Good advice. But have you considered, thinking in lieu of name calling would slow things down. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #1

"Hitler" had ProSense Jun 2012 #2

Dogs are not a political position. Name one of Hitler's political positions, like anti-academic.... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #3

Yep, when you advocate for republican positions sadbear Jun 2012 #4

Obamacare IS a Republican position DJ13 Jun 2012 #6

It's a Democratic one now. sadbear Jun 2012 #8

The Democrats got indoctrinated by the GOP. Hooray. Zalatix Jun 2012 #23

So are indefinite detention, austerity budgets, settlements for corrupt banks, woo me with science Jun 2012 #24

It looks like you hit all the important ones. But we still have time for some more. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #25

+ hay rick Jun 2012 #31

One party... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2012 #33

You're talking about one provision. Not the ACA. Are you familiar with it? Doesn't sound like it. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #9

lolz. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #20

Before Reagan treestar Jun 2012 #40

You can also go onto the Weight Watchers forums and post about cheesecake, but... FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #5

If you're not part of the solution . . . RZM Jun 2012 #15

DUzy! arcane1 Jun 2012 #26

Seems more suited for Meta nt SunsetDreams Jun 2012 #7

I like strong tea. If we had ordered strong tea we could have added a glass of water and Autumn Jun 2012 #10

Your tea/water analogy is off...some Democrats wanted strong tea, Republicans wanted people thirsty Rowdyboy Jun 2012 #11

It's also fashionable to look, frantically, for the "Debbie Downer/Worst Case Scenario" and slam it MADem Jun 2012 #12

It's valid to voice an opinion against a bill. It's also valid to point out... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #13

Weak tea? progressoid Jun 2012 #14

Yeh. What I find disturbing is that Zorra Jun 2012 #16

Of course, name calling would not be required if logic support their "centrist" positions. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #18

And Ron Paul is anti-war... joshcryer Jun 2012 #17

You will die of old age before the Public Option is passed. If it is ever passed. Zalatix Jun 2012 #29

"No name calling," said MannyGoldstein. Robb Jun 2012 #19

Yeah, because when we think Hitler we think HEALTHCARE FOR ALL! FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #21

Yes, that's what I said MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #27

I don't disagree with you, but the people who wanted to see ACA struck down so that Proles Jun 2012 #22

I don't see anyone here who wants the ENTIRE ACA struck down. Zalatix Jun 2012 #28

Repeated polling shows that two-thirds of Americans want Medicare for All MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #32

It would have been too risky. How exactly could have Democrats pushed through Proles Jun 2012 #34

K&R! Odin2005 Jun 2012 #30

It's the "I got mine, F you" mentality displayed in full regalia just1voice Jun 2012 #35

yep, its a sign of the weak minded, but I haven't changed my position one iota quinnox Jun 2012 #36

Well said. n/t Laelth Jun 2012 #38

Some people prefer the message and others the messenger. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #37

I missed those threads treestar Jun 2012 #39