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Hortensis

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7. We're not going to stop Gorsuch's appointment.

Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:26 PM

Mar 2017

And I want to know exactly which Democrats are targeted for removal by each group and why. Some Democrats are conservatives representing traditionally conservative districts who are nevertheless prepared to work with the party they belong to on many things. Giving their seats to the GOP would not be an advance.

Others, though, are liberal party leaders whom some of the power groups behind these efforts have targeted for removal and replacement with newbie radicals.

These people, by attacking Democratic Party candidates and platform, usually by "multitasking" right-wing ammunition, helped elect 45 and the Republicans hold Congress and lose several state governments in 2016. We, in addition to fighting the Republicans' plan for restyling America as a corporatist fascist state, also have to fight the far left's efforts to further weaken us and avoid a continuation of this national tragedy in 2018 and 2020.

The right-wing media machine, extremely well funded, is already working hard to empower their efforts.

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Gorsuch warning Liberals to Senate Democrats: Reject Trump's Supreme Court pick or else [View all] ProudLib72 Mar 2017 OP

Do NOTHING unless Merrick Garland is put on the court! Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #1

Remember, under the McConnell rule... Else You Are Mad Mar 2017 #2

You mean 2021 Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #3

Yes. Else You Are Mad Mar 2017 #4

Oh, I like that! Good angle! Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #6

McConnell! lisvard2 Mar 2017 #27

I'm happy to primary any Dem who doesn't vote NO on this. We had a SCOTUS seat STOLEN! TeamPooka Mar 2017 #5

That alone - but honestly, they should be republicans, except RIGHTFULLY say Cosmocat Mar 2017 #9

Ah... so this IS the new tea party. FBaggins Mar 2017 #50

We're not going to stop Gorsuch's appointment. Hortensis Mar 2017 #7

This Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2017 #8

I see it the exact opposite way : The media and others want us to keep conservative Democrats TeamPooka Mar 2017 #11

Many who feel your way are honest and sensible. Hortensis Mar 2017 #17

Hmm. Why do Liberals and progressives automatically have to be lumped in w/ "Far-left" movements? TeamPooka Mar 2017 #19

I'm a liberal and progressive by both personality and politics Hortensis Mar 2017 #30

Nothing wrong with primary fights, get the most liberal candidate possible to run against Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #31

I can argue either side of this question and do not really know, "politically,' which is best. pangaia Mar 2017 #23

It seems to me that the "far left" have two basic things to offer: Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #33

I don't think that's far left at all. I think that's just regular left. LisaM Mar 2017 #42

Really? Go read. There's a broad and deep Hortensis Mar 2017 #36

Exactly. Who needs "Dems" that vote with Pukes? lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #35

Why aren't we going to stop the appointment? we certainly won't if we don't insist that we as a JCanete Mar 2017 #47

Thank you for this post. n/t murielm99 Mar 2017 #53

+1, Exactly. n/t FSogol Mar 2017 #59

If the republicans do not have 2/3 the Democrats can filibuster Gorsuch, and any republican still_one Mar 2017 #61

no point in having the rules if we never use them. Might as well make them do it. nt JCanete Mar 2017 #67

What you said Hekate Mar 2017 #63

Wonderful! Let's work to make sure the Republicans have MineralMan Mar 2017 #10

We never said we could block the nomination, just want to see our guys fight for a change TeamPooka Mar 2017 #12

Who's "we?" MineralMan Mar 2017 #14

I'm in CA so yes I hope they do. Also why do you need to name call people "morons"? TeamPooka Mar 2017 #20

So, you didn't define "we?" MineralMan Mar 2017 #24

I meant to say I. I jumped through all your hoops, now answer my question TeamPooka Mar 2017 #25

I thought they kept the filibuster for SCotUS nominees? NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #34

Well, I'm guessing we won't have enough votes to block cloture. MineralMan Mar 2017 #38

as long as 41 Democrats stick together NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #39

I really don't know, frankly, how the Gorsuch thing will go. MineralMan Mar 2017 #41

So? FBaggins Mar 2017 #54

I think the rules for each senate session NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #57

Unfortunately... that's incorrect FBaggins Mar 2017 #58

Because your tactics worked so well last time (not!) Ned Flanders Mar 2017 #43

I disagree. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #65

But even if all 41 Dem Senators vote NAY on Gorsuch TheDebbieDee Mar 2017 #13

No, it wouldn't. That's the sticking point, isn't it? MineralMan Mar 2017 #15

There are 46 Democratic Senators and 2 Independents that vote with the Democrats. PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #45

What's wrong with all the Dems voting "nay"? Lifelong Protester Mar 2017 #16

Not a thing FBaggins Mar 2017 #55

Okay, I get it ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #18

Democrats need to start fighting Republicans the way Republicans fight Democrats. TeamPooka Mar 2017 #21

What TeamPooka said. Ned Flanders Mar 2017 #44

Yes, Democrats HAVE to be seen to fight for Sane America. OnDoutside Mar 2017 #62

I don't want a lifeguard at the beach who is only going to save me 85% of the time either. TeamPooka Mar 2017 #22

Understand your point yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #51

+1 ffr Mar 2017 #26

How do you counter when the otherside expects it? clarkrd Mar 2017 #28

It is not possible to have a reasoned discussion about the left wing . . FairWinds Mar 2017 #29

"Those people"?? red dog 1 Mar 2017 #56

That leader would look like...wait for it.... ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #66

Sorry that I was not clear . . FairWinds Mar 2017 #69

I think the McConnell move was only possible because he knew about the election theft BSdetect Mar 2017 #32

It seems obvious to me. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #64

Will there ever be hope of having a decent Democrat from WV? Hulk Mar 2017 #37

Thank goodness level heads seem to have prevailed in the Democratic caucus tritsofme Mar 2017 #40

If Repugs are allowed to get away with this shit... TDale313 Mar 2017 #46

This is the least coherent headline/subject line I've seen on DU this year. TygrBright Mar 2017 #48

The problem is...... BlueJac Mar 2017 #49

No more nominations until we figure out what the hell is going on! turbo_satan Mar 2017 #52

Go liberals! ananda Mar 2017 #60

Why the rush? kentuck Mar 2017 #68

Worst headline ever. trof Mar 2017 #70

+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2017 #71