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Hortensis

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20. The eternal conservative unworthy-poor meme.

Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:01 AM

Mar 2017

It pings like a giant gong with conservatives, however, who in their guts believe in a natural order where worthy people rise, as evidenced by worldly success, and unworthy people refuse to do what is needed to succeed, as evidenced by their lack of healthcare.

No other factors for poverty need to be seriously considered because worthy people overcome them--literally by definition.

Conservatives weren't always this rigid and absolutist in their thinking, btw. Before the development of safety net programs (which helped millions no one knew, including undoubtedly many who didn't "deserve" help and thus caused great anxiety among many conservatives), everyone knew good people devastated by serious reverses that could happen to almost anyone.

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Chaffetz: Poor people would have health coverage if they didn't spend money on that new iPhone [View all] Miles Archer Mar 2017 OP

Each day I loathe them more and more. CurtEastPoint Mar 2017 #1

I am feeling particularly sickened by them today. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #32

This is why I could never be a Republican. This Chaffetz fucker, who has never missed a meal in FSogol Mar 2017 #2

And what is up with his name. It's Chavez Drahthaardogs Mar 2017 #16

Are you kidding? He's Latino and is disguising it with the spelling of his name? brush Mar 2017 #74

I don't like him either, Mendocino Mar 2017 #75

Be serious. If you're going to Anglicize your name, you don't choose Eastern European consonants... Hekate Mar 2017 #103

When he arrives at the Pearly Gates, OY! calimary Mar 2017 #127

They never talk about the price gouging and profiteering vlyons Mar 2017 #3

Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2017 #12

But wait isn't the Republican mantra Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2017 #4

I so want to spend a little time with that little shit. Botany Mar 2017 #5

He's a real winner, ain't he? kentuck Mar 2017 #6

Wait, I thought they all had free Obamaphones. tanyev Mar 2017 #7

Oooo, good catch Hekate Mar 2017 #104

Yeah, that's not how it works. RedWedge Mar 2017 #8

I just kinda fell in love with this post. n/t phylny Mar 2017 #23

+1000 Vinnie From Indy Mar 2017 #24

This should be an OP kcr Mar 2017 #30

Touche BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #35

Can I upvote a post? Dem2 Mar 2017 #38

Thank you. dalton99a Mar 2017 #41

wish we could rec. posts. JHan Mar 2017 #45

Yep, I'd RECOMMEND THIS POST! Raster Mar 2017 #46

Please make this an OP obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #47

And you don't have to buy them new. Ilsa Mar 2017 #49

this crazycatlady Mar 2017 #63

Basic plan 4g data caps are usually hell, though Occulus Mar 2017 #122

Excellent! Mr. Evil Mar 2017 #64

slow clap Beaverhausen Mar 2017 #72

Excellent, RedWedge. And so well put. Thank you! Hortensis Mar 2017 #73

Good stuff. Guess Chaffetz is advocating for using pay phones but you'll have health care... brush Mar 2017 #76

Well, maybe Bettie Mar 2017 #77

I don't have one and get along fine. n/t OnlinePoker Mar 2017 #93

You don't have a cell phone? Retired? brush Mar 2017 #99

No cell phone, yes retired...2 years OnlinePoker Mar 2017 #111

Wonderful post! neeksgeek Mar 2017 #82

Not to mention, the expense scaling between a phone and health care is just ridiculous cemaphonic Mar 2017 #88

And there are smart phones, other than iPhones, that require a one-time expense of $100-$200 Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #90

not to mention, a $500 iPhone does not equal a $200K operation wordpix Mar 2017 #96

Excellent post. There was a time that welfare moms weren't supposed to have a phone in the home Hekate Mar 2017 #100

And later, it was a t.v. murielm99 Mar 2017 #133

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #136

Excuse me, lotusaura, have we met before? Because you are being pretty rude in your assumptions ... Hekate Mar 2017 #140

Goodness, that was quick. Seems the 3-post newbie had but a fleeting stay here. Hekate Mar 2017 #141

Please send this... 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #115

He's a heartless bastard. And yes, this post should be an OP. calimary Mar 2017 #128

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #135

Thank you! That about covers it, well done! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #137

First Of All RobinA Mar 2017 #9

We bought our smart phone brand new for $99.00. Stonepounder Mar 2017 #59

Right. Even the top-tier, most expensive iPhone sold costs about $40/mo for 24 months. NYC Liberal Mar 2017 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #134

cell phone does not cost treestar Mar 2017 #10

It reminds me of those commercials that tell you that because you saved money kcr Mar 2017 #39

It's TracPhone, not iPhone, you jackass. yallerdawg Mar 2017 #11

Or it's the Obamaphone... mwooldri Mar 2017 #120

I want this Jackass to have to live on about $11,000 a year with zero assets. sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #13

and pay for his $200K operations out of pocket wordpix Mar 2017 #97

The GOP should just come out and say they hate people and get it over with. Initech Mar 2017 #14

they are in political life just for the money. bdamomma Mar 2017 #21

Chaffetz has banked health insurance and a retirement Blue_true Mar 2017 #54

They hate poor people superpatriotman Mar 2017 #29

The Republican Party is literally a threat to the human race. Fuck off Chaffetz. This is the one BeckyDem Mar 2017 #15

Hope people finally start seeing these people Thrill Mar 2017 #17

Deplorables won't see republicans for what they are. Blue_true Mar 2017 #55

Everyday I hate these asshats more and more! n/t Akacia Mar 2017 #18

wow, that is rather rude comment isn't it? bdamomma Mar 2017 #19

The eternal conservative unworthy-poor meme. Hortensis Mar 2017 #20

They will choose.. your next opponent Deb Mar 2017 #22

I so hate these mofos! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #25

Darwinian Governance SticksnStones Mar 2017 #26

(Answer: cannon fodder. Plus control of women.) Hekate Mar 2017 #110

Hey, Jason C., even with YOUR health insurance. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2017 #27

the loathing of poor americans and lower middleclass americans has always been a mainstay beachbum bob Mar 2017 #28

Yet that's one of their biggest voting blocks... nt HopeAgain Mar 2017 #34

conservatives appeal to the racism and bigotry of those in lower end of the spectrum beachbum bob Mar 2017 #37

I'm stealing that for a political button from zazzle: "2018 Is Coming". WinkyDink Mar 2017 #42

America: HughBeaumont Mar 2017 #58

+1 Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #95

this is the fucking republican mindset in a nutshell. they hate the people that elect them. spanone Mar 2017 #31

WeDontCare - The Republicans' Answer to Health Insurance MineralMan Mar 2017 #33

DonTCare LeftInTX Mar 2017 #81

You're watching a craftman in action. Turbineguy Mar 2017 #36

Why do Utahns put up with that evil clown? I'm hoping ecstatic Mar 2017 #40

Why do we in Iowa put up with our version exboyfil Mar 2017 #43

Just when I think I cannot DESPISE Rep. Jason Chaffetz --R, Liar/Hypocrite/Traitor, UT--... Raster Mar 2017 #44

Republicans have a specific mental image that a poor person in America procon Mar 2017 #48

Keep insisting that all Americans deserve the health plan they're getting. NT Ilsa Mar 2017 #50

"I couldn't afford insurance, even after using my food stamps for lobster Ilsa Mar 2017 #51

Totally misses the point JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #52

And some people use their smart phones as their main device for Internet connectivity since they Lanius Mar 2017 #130

Yep JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #142

So, the top IPhone costs around $700 total. Blue_true Mar 2017 #53

save save and save some more bora13 Mar 2017 #57

When have Republicans ever done arithmetic right? tclambert Mar 2017 #138

I missed something eyeofnewt Mar 2017 #56

Wealthcare..... usedtobedemgurl Mar 2017 #60

"Choices" for many may be choosing between prescription drugs and food. nt oasis Mar 2017 #61

My iPhone cost less than one month's health care coverage. ehrnst Mar 2017 #62

The cost of an I-phone pays for Mendocino Mar 2017 #66

This is the "Lobster-eating, Cadillac-driving welfare queens" for 2017 Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #65

The Latest Iteration of Reagan's Welfare Queen Myth dlk Mar 2017 #67

Not only iPhones... moonseller66 Mar 2017 #69

"Those darn phones are expensive": Fox News helps GOP rep. save face after comparing health care to Miles Archer Mar 2017 #70

I once knew a conservative politician who thought everyone had a cell phone BSdetect Mar 2017 #71

Has this JA ever priced an Iphone? The damn phone costs LESS than ONE MONTH of health ins! napi21 Mar 2017 #78

It's not that he's never priced an iPhone. GoCubsGo Mar 2017 #113

And the cost of an iphone will cover, what? Triple bypass? annabanana Mar 2017 #79

Hubby's triple bypass cost 80K. sarge43 Mar 2017 #119

Who would Republican Jesus screw? sarcasmo Mar 2017 #80

Chaffetz is a cockroach Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #83

Cockroach is a much better... 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #125

News flash for you, Jason neeksgeek Mar 2017 #84

When I was down on my luck and relocated cities three years ago Lanius Mar 2017 #152

Was this equal to Reagans pink Cadillac slight? Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2017 #85

This is what evil looks like... liberalmuse Mar 2017 #86

This Will Be videohead5 Mar 2017 #87

Dear POS Chaffetz Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #89

Proving again Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2017 #91

Total fucking idiot! lark Mar 2017 #92

Exactly mvd Mar 2017 #94

As people have mentioned upthread, area51 Mar 2017 #98

Maybe he could go fuck himself. Freedomofspeech Mar 2017 #101

Live poor, Fuckface. Iggo Mar 2017 #102

A just God would have The Wizard Mar 2017 #105

This is typical winger thinking MrScorpio Mar 2017 #106

We would all have health coverage... Orsino Mar 2017 #107

Both his DC and Provo boxes are full. stollen Mar 2017 #108

The GOP is offering up nothing besides death and misery. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #109

Rednecks could have teeth if they didn't spend money on new pickup trucks. Beartracks Mar 2017 #112

Let us hear applause for ...Rep Jason Chaffetz...(R-UT)....yes applause...why? Stuart G Mar 2017 #114

ASS Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #116

Just Stupid erpowers Mar 2017 #117

*shocked* I have a new iphone? Why didnt anyone tell me I had one? Thank goodness though because now cstanleytech Mar 2017 #118

And if the GOP Cong Critters thought they had more money ... lpbk2713 Mar 2017 #121

- Bigredhunk Mar 2017 #123

Support Chaffetz's potential 2018 opponent... RobertDevereaux Mar 2017 #124

Heads up, guys! HERE! There is an alternative. calimary Mar 2017 #129

As if $700 will cover healthcare. muntrv Mar 2017 #126

Not to mention alot of people get those phones with payment plans that they slowly pay it off as cstanleytech Mar 2017 #132

And not every smart phone is a $700 iPhone xor Mar 2017 #144

Conservatives hate the poor and have denigrated and scapegoated them since the 19th century Lanius Mar 2017 #131

Hey Jason 47of74 Mar 2017 #139

Ahhhhh soooo that's where that's coming from. xor Mar 2017 #143

And to add to everyone's comments, Health Savings Accounts are such a stupid idea.... steve2470 Mar 2017 #145

OK, aside from the repugnance of this comment, let's look critically at the claim that PatrickforO Mar 2017 #146

Why are these (R)'s dumber than a fence post? nolabels Mar 2017 #147

Betcha Apple is loving this guy lame54 Mar 2017 #148

That remark is gonna leave a mark...an empty mark of where he used to work, the dumb fuck Chaffetz downeastdaniel Mar 2017 #149

I guarantee he'll be re-elected Calculating Mar 2017 #150

Chaffetz is a moron Calculating Mar 2017 #151