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onenote

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24. Other examples of "involuntary" immigrants
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:10 AM
Mar 2017

Thousands of French and Austrian Jews transported by railcar to Auschwitz -- immigrants
Thousands of American POWs who were captured in the Philippines during WWII and transferred to, and died in, Japanese slave camps -- immigrants.
The Malaysians being held "hostage" by North Korea -- immigrants.

According to the Oxford English dictionary, an immigrant is someone who comes to live permanently in a foreign country. Now, its true that the definition doesn't distinguish between voluntary and involuntary immigration, but implicit in the definition is the notion of intent -- did the person intend to come to live permanently in a foreign country. Slaves didn't intend to live permanently in the US. Hell, they didn't intend to come here at all. It was someone else's intent, just as it was the intent of the Nazis, the Japanese, and the North Koreans in the examples above, not the intent of their captives.


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I wonder who actually wrote that. AJT Mar 2017 #1
His PR/Damage Control Team Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #4
I'm glad he's found somebody to write for him Turbineguy Mar 2017 #2
Yeah, keep digging cannabis_flower Mar 2017 #3
Deeper, Ben! Stick That Foot in Deeper! MineralMan Mar 2017 #5
Old "Batshit Ben" doesn't want to use the 'S' word. Greybnk48 Mar 2017 #6
From the title , I thought, "and now he's insulting the Australians". nocalflea Mar 2017 #7
Ben, it's called kidnapping. Slavery. PsychoBabble Mar 2017 #8
Moron Republican- REFUGEES turning themselves in at US borders are NOT immigrants (visa in hand). Sunlei Mar 2017 #9
Um BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #10
The actual key words are hidden in the brambles (intentional allusion): "access to......." WinkyDink Mar 2017 #11
And he, or his writer, still talks stupidly: "slaves were forced here against their will and lost WinkyDink Mar 2017 #12
Sorry, but slaves were Imports, not immigrants... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #13
Good point. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #15
Tobacco, rum, cotton, sugar, slaves all commodities leftstreet Mar 2017 #31
While I agree that you can be an involuntary immigrant - Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #14
Oh Just Shut Up Already Me. Mar 2017 #16
Jesus Christ, STOP DIGGING!!! hatrack Mar 2017 #17
See also: "Involuntary Suicide" hatrack Mar 2017 #18
Involuntary immigrant? He is fucking ridiculous and must be called out for covering for the Trump BeckyDem Mar 2017 #19
Fucking idiot ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #20
"Involuntary Immigrant"? Is that a cousin to "Alternative Facts"? n/t SFnomad Mar 2017 #21
That's a new one matt819 Mar 2017 #22
NO Ben, they were not immmigrants. Mendocino Mar 2017 #23
Other examples of "involuntary" immigrants onenote Mar 2017 #24
Does he have a split personality? procon Mar 2017 #25
No way this fool is a brain surgeon SHRED Mar 2017 #26
Idiot Savant. He has one skill which made him a lot of money. What he lacks is a mental filter. haele Mar 2017 #32
How'd he keep his eyes open long enough... SHRED Mar 2017 #34
Can we make him an involuntary expatriot? Orrex Mar 2017 #27
to hell with this bootlicking idiot heaven05 Mar 2017 #28
Seriously Ben...just go back to sleep... dhill926 Mar 2017 #29
yep...just keep digging Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #33
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