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Denzil_DC

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51. I'm reccing this because of the note of caution it sounds about Schindler and Mensch,

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:31 AM

Mar 2017

the need for which I've brought up here before on a few threads, though I don't agree with all Joe's conclusions in this OP (one of which he's revised as a result of discussions above).

Disclosure: In a previous online life of mine, Joe and I found ourselves on nominally opposing sides, in 2008 or so, though barely locked horns. His online persona is no stranger to me, and I think I can vouch for his Democratic bona fides, FWIW.

Similarly, I encountered Schindler and his online associates a few years ago in the context of other security issues, and being a Brit, I'm well acquainted with Louise Mensch, and hence very cautious about her.

I take what Schindler and Mensch post with a pinch of salt, but they're worth taking into account. I just wouldn't take what they say as gospel, just like any other online pundits (including me and Joe!).

Add them to the jigsaw where they fit, but allow for the fact you may have to disassemble it at a later stage in the light of new information.

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DOUBLE CROSS: John Schindler, Louise Mensch and other "spooky" writers in the anti-Trump movement [View all] JCannon Mar 2017 OP

Maybe--I have never liked the JS-Observer-Kushner link. hlthe2b Mar 2017 #1

I see nothing in his post to doubt. OKNancy Mar 2017 #2

Count me in the skeptical column salin Mar 2017 #11

Hi there OKNancy Mar 2017 #14

I also thought of Bev Harris salin Mar 2017 #20

I was taken in until quite recently by Assange, Snowden and Greenwald, GliderGuider Mar 2017 #85

Right on, right on... pbmus Mar 2017 #102

Except that he's completely misstated what Mensch reported on. That's a glaring mistake. msanthrope Mar 2017 #27

all I know is she is a nut OKNancy Mar 2017 #42

Ok....she's a nut. So why not directly quote the nut, to prove her nuttiness? "Nuts and sluts" msanthrope Mar 2017 #43

I'm not going to spend a lot of time on Mensch, Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #57

I'm not in disagreement with her. msanthrope Mar 2017 #62

So you're up for WWIII? PaulaFarrell Mar 2017 #69

Mensch is starting WWIII.....well fuck that is a world of power. msanthrope Mar 2017 #77

Someone quoted to you that she would like to see 'regime change' in Russia PaulaFarrell Mar 2017 #88

Really? Regime change in Russia has occurred quite a bit. Tell me when nukes were used. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #91

I'm getting peeved... JCannon Mar 2017 #5

ok, where's your blog? eShirl Mar 2017 #19

I found it by searching on his user name, + liberal blog salin Mar 2017 #22

Perhaps hlthe2b Mar 2017 #45

You DARE to talk about "anonymity"? JCannon Mar 2017 #52

Hey, Joe! peggysue2 Mar 2017 #99

Required reading OKNancy Mar 2017 #3

When I have Greenwald and the rest of the claimed "Far Left" decrying the Deep State, msanthrope Mar 2017 #12

Good point ymetca Mar 2017 #81

Your concern for our wellbeing is touching. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #4

To clarify GliderGuider Mar 2017 #6

Discredit? SecularMotion Mar 2017 #8

I follow them both. I don't make policy based on their writing, but GliderGuider Mar 2017 #10

The truth is out there - and in time we will find Nance, Mensch, and Schindler were right JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #32

I get your point about his 20committee handle, drm604 Mar 2017 #7

let's not bring facts into this. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #13

Oh, sorry. drm604 Mar 2017 #16

You seem concerned. Please feel free to air more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #9

well, of course, we have to take Mensch's and Schindler's posts with grains of salt Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #15

Mensch has her Patriobotics blog - it's more than a tweet JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #34

sure, she's more of a real reporter than Schindler Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #41

Disagree theglammistress Mar 2017 #17

Yep - they are up there with Mr. Nance on this issue JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #29

And other commentators I TRUST IMPLICITLY link to Mensch and Schindler. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #65

Very good point! get the red out Mar 2017 #78

+10000 n/t JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #92

Y'know who was the first blogger to emphasize the Russian connection? JCannon Mar 2017 #55

Next time share the link of the original post. bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #18

Oh lord... JCannon Mar 2017 #25

All that from the number 20 Progressive dog Mar 2017 #21

Bizarre that you're reading something nefarious into his 20committee handle yodermon Mar 2017 #23

Thanks yodermon! n/t JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #28

I swear, all of a sudden, I miss Octafish. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #31

Me too! JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #36

Octafish would have taken better-sourced jabs. But yeah....the Purity Concerns raised here miss the msanthrope Mar 2017 #38

Here's something - Paul Roderick Gregory JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #49

Gregor is writing utter, and easily disproveable nonsense....in 2011, Trump was a candidate..... msanthrope Mar 2017 #53

Adam Khan? His stuff is in depth. dem4decades Mar 2017 #54

Yes, his tweets provide quite a lot to do further research. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #67

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. JCannon Mar 2017 #35

Who is the well-known writer? msanthrope Mar 2017 #40

Thomas C. Theiner ? OKNancy Mar 2017 #47

This is the first I've heard of Theiner JCannon Mar 2017 #56

Mensch and Schindler i still take with a huge grain of salt given their conservative bona fides yodermon Mar 2017 #61

Has anyone ever believed that Ilsa Mar 2017 #24

I'm with Louise Mensch on this - n/t JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #26

It is sometimes very smart to make COMMON CAUSE against a mutual enemy. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #30

Mensch & Schindler's work has been very beguiling. Surely, though annabanana Mar 2017 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author -Steph- Mar 2017 #37

Schindler and Mensch put their names to their work. Do you? Renew Deal Mar 2017 #39

Of course. Do YOU? JCannon Mar 2017 #46

I want your aunts blood type and a hair from each of your dogs. Renew Deal Mar 2017 #58

You realize that nobody here knows you, right? GliderGuider Mar 2017 #70

But they have a BLOG! KittyWampus Mar 2017 #80

My argument speaks for itself JCannon Mar 2017 #95

your 'argument' is largely a conspiracy around the name "20 Committee" and Schindler himself KittyWampus Mar 2017 #98

Yes, that is my privilege. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #100

As long as their allegations continue to be proven later by fact Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #44

this . . .n/t annabanana Mar 2017 #59

Schindler has been fierce critic of Assange/Wikileaks for years and defender of NSA wishstar Mar 2017 #48

Please do not tell ME kpete Mar 2017 #50

I'm reccing this because of the note of caution it sounds about Schindler and Mensch, Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #51

So, the long game is simply to Ilsa Mar 2017 #60

No matter what I read or hear .. ananda Mar 2017 #63

A newcomer trying to discredit two people who have actually been fairly accurate exposing Trump KittyWampus Mar 2017 #64

Makes plausible sense and given the track record....... nolabels Mar 2017 #66

Wow! Only 24 posts and full of Russian and Wikileaks talking points! Koinos Mar 2017 #68

Well said. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #71

Thank you. Koinos Mar 2017 #76

100% GliderGuider Mar 2017 #79

I agree with everything you say. Koinos Mar 2017 #83

THIS... nt pkdu Mar 2017 #86

Louise mensch is a laughingstock in the UK PaulaFarrell Mar 2017 #72

As was said above, GliderGuider Mar 2017 #84

Her only agenda is herself PaulaFarrell Mar 2017 #90

One blogger, casting asparagus on a couple of other bloggers. MineralMan Mar 2017 #73

It's hugh. Series, even. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #103

Excellent and important info flamingdem Mar 2017 #74

hokey net journalism bigtree Mar 2017 #75

Sorry, Milo saidsimplesimon Mar 2017 #82

Nah Schindler seems very anti-Russian, anti-Snowden and anti-wiki leaks TNLib Mar 2017 #87

Thank you blogslut Mar 2017 #89

The OP made a conspiracy out of the name "20 Committee" and it was explained by someone posting KittyWampus Mar 2017 #93

Not to mention her FISA warrant scoop GliderGuider Mar 2017 #97

Caution is the point peggysue2 Mar 2017 #94

We are all cautious now riverwalker Mar 2017 #96

Yeah, grain of salt. No, shit, we get it. hatrack Mar 2017 #101