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Hortensis

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146. Anyone here spread the primary lies about Hillary's

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 07:54 PM

Mar 2017

corruption? You know the ones, months and months and months of left-wing lies that only reinforced the blizzard of lies put out by the right--that the Democratic Party is corrupt and in bondage to corporatists. The lies about "stealing" primary votes, state after state after state? So that even the most ignorant voter ended up believing these scurrilous slanders must be true because they came from both "sides"?

Imo, people who did that were as dishonest and dishonorable in their attempts to take down our major candidate, and others, as their counterparts on the right.

Then, of course, there are no doubt some visiting from other forums who actually do really believe these lies and the incredible dense webs of conspiracies built on them. Enough about them.

What I see on this thread is attempts by some to rationalize away sabotaging the Democratic candidate and party during a desperately important election. Now that it's far too late, it's so unfair that not everyone will pretend to believe it never happened.

Wouldn't it be nice if President Trump never happened? If we could be talking about improvements to the ACA, increases in the minimum wage, battling climate change, affordable college?

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I was just called "radical left" [View all] Exilednight Mar 2017 OP

AMEN! chillfactor Mar 2017 #1

Dang! Almost sounds like the 1956 Eisenhower Republican Party Platform! TheBlackAdder Mar 2017 #46

Good question. elleng Mar 2017 #2

Well then, that makes me part of the "radical left" also... Raster Mar 2017 #3

Not a clue Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #4

It means you voted for Trump. milestogo Mar 2017 #5

No. It means they wish I voted for Trump so they could have someone to blame. Exilednight Mar 2017 #9

Who are "they?" Cary Mar 2017 #61

Why so defensive? Exilednight Mar 2017 #62

I confess Cary Mar 2017 #63

You seriously believe e there's a radical left in this country that Exilednight Mar 2017 #66

Laugh and the whole world laughs with you Cary Mar 2017 #69

+1 nt brer cat Mar 2017 #85

Great post Gothmog Mar 2017 #89

Exactly. A perfect reply to babble without truth. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #92

"There is a radical left sowing discord and discontent" LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #113

"There is a radical left sowing discord and discontent. Hortensis Mar 2017 #118

There is a line between constructive criticism and sowing discord and discontent Cary Mar 2017 #119

And/or an expression of angry frustration. :) Hortensis Mar 2017 #123

Our system was built around compromise Cary Mar 2017 #130

Simple and actually wonderful truth. We have a great system Hortensis Mar 2017 #140

Trust me, I'm laughing, but not with you. Exilednight Mar 2017 #134

If I had a nickel for every time a "conservative" said that to me... Cary Mar 2017 #141

Well with the epic failures of the Centrists, of course they need to blame someone! Rex Mar 2017 #129

In my observation, it certainly works both ways. nt Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #170

Thank you Cary Mar 2017 #172

Huh? Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #173

I'd allege the same pretense lacking evidence as well if the OPs premise supported my biases LanternWaste Mar 2017 #97

They want to create more republicans and brainwash people into believing their way. They caroldansen Mar 2017 #6

If God didn't want us to have freedom of choice He would have made us robots. caroldansen Mar 2017 #8

In 'another thread' here at DU? leftstreet Mar 2017 #7

Yes. Exilednight Mar 2017 #10

Left bashing has become a favorite topic of a few posters Warpy Mar 2017 #19

There is very little of what you are claiming KittyWampus Mar 2017 #39

You don't. I do. Warpy Mar 2017 #58

Interesting, We hate their policies, but they hate us. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #44

The difference between liberal Democrats and Hortensis Mar 2017 #132

+1 betsuni Mar 2017 #135

Must be nice to be omniscient Warpy Mar 2017 #142

If only the people I'm talking about had been. Hortensis Mar 2017 #147

The primary ended many months ago sammythecat Mar 2017 #165

Here is the thread. Fla Dem Mar 2017 #182

Why? Excellent question. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #11

Nothing radical... Snackshack Mar 2017 #12

I was told I'm part of what's wrong with America. 58Sunliner Mar 2017 #13

Stupid meta-thread. It may be that someone thinks you might be an ideolouge. Or a "purist". KittyWampus Mar 2017 #14

Agreed. We have bigger fish to fry. bravenak Mar 2017 #18

I feel sad for you. I would never disparage anyone who says they Exilednight Mar 2017 #24

I am not disparaging anyone. Except maybe ideolougues. I feel sad for anyone KittyWampus Mar 2017 #34

Here, maybe this will help you feel better. Exilednight Mar 2017 #43

Radical Left I Really A Myth. Your OP Shows You Are Really The Center. TheMastersNemesis Mar 2017 #15

The Communist Party USA has supported every Democratic candidate...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2017 #98

Anyone here spread the primary lies about Hillary's Hortensis Mar 2017 #146

You sound centrist to me. roamer65 Mar 2017 #16

!!! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #45

That is the problem. Blue_true Mar 2017 #17

I see no evidence from his post that he believes any of those things Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #33

there is no link to the original post the OP'er is even complaining about... KittyWampus Mar 2017 #41

I know which thread he's referring to Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #153

Center left here. GWC58 Mar 2017 #20

BADGE OF HONOR. slumcamper Mar 2017 #21

Yup that seems to be choie Mar 2017 #22

They've been brainwashed for decades Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #23

yes AllaN01Bear Mar 2017 #25

Congratulations! My father has called me a Communist for similar stances. no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #26

Ever been called a social justice warrior? IronLionZion Mar 2017 #27

I was once called a pinko when I was in the Army. Exilednight Mar 2017 #28

LOL- My wife calls me that all the time. I try to tell her I'm very centrist redstateblues Mar 2017 #29

Me, too! BadgerMom Mar 2017 #30

WORD! HAB911 Mar 2017 #65

All of us damn left radicals are just a thorn in societies Doreen Mar 2017 #31

Radical left??? bdamomma Mar 2017 #32

It's a term I would expect to hear on FOX News. jalan48 Mar 2017 #35

Welcome to what the rest of the world calls being called a Social Democrat or Liberal. mwooldri Mar 2017 #36

We are to the right of the rest of the western world. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #47

I Would Like to Join You Leith Mar 2017 #37

the problem is that what you described is not radical, or the "radical left.' tomp Mar 2017 #38

None of us even know what post the OP is even referring to. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #40

I'm pretty sure I know which thread he's referring to. n/t Crunchy Frog Mar 2017 #59

I don't think that is radical, or very left...just humane, Alice11111 Mar 2017 #42

I was likened to a Nazi by a fellow Dem today in my town wordpix Mar 2017 #48

Oh yeah HAB911 Mar 2017 #67

This must be about comments in the "How the extreme left gave us Nixon, Bush and Trump" betsuni Mar 2017 #49

There are some who haven't a clue what "left" is truebluegreen Mar 2017 #50

Pardon the French but I sure as fuck am NOT scared of it ... mr_lebowski Mar 2017 #51

Embrace it Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #52

It's all about people that have it made that want us to be just democrat enough to make brewens Mar 2017 #53

These are my exact same views aswell RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #54

Were you called "radical left" for holding the above positions? BzaDem Mar 2017 #55

I have held these positions for oooh 25 years at least... uriel1972 Mar 2017 #56

Sign me up too. brush Mar 2017 #57

The horror. The horror. Cary Mar 2017 #60

Then I am too. alarimer Mar 2017 #64

It doesn't take much to be considered radical left on DU these days. nt m-lekktor Mar 2017 #68

People aren't JUST giving you shit for your political beliefs. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #70

Yes. Perfect. Nailed it! NurseJackie Mar 2017 #71

+1 nt Fresh_Start Mar 2017 #75

+1 nt brer cat Mar 2017 #87

You have the OP's number. +1 Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #93

Perfect Cary Mar 2017 #107

Well put. In this case our "radicals" are very mainstream, Hortensis Mar 2017 #152

They are acting stupid liquid diamond Mar 2017 #154

Me: love the radical left. ananda Mar 2017 #72

JFK's thoughts on being a liberal Mrs. Ted Nancy Mar 2017 #73

That Overton Window MyshkinCommaPrince Mar 2017 #74

The window only moves rightwards.. Kentonio Mar 2017 #81

because they haven't figured out how to privatize & profit from some of those things? yurbud Mar 2017 #76

I've been called a oligarch-supporting Republican lover NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #77

It's not always easy to live in the REAL WORLD when surrounded by naive and delusional extremists... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #82

Nevertheless, she persisted. brer cat Mar 2017 #88

I have whined about that, but I don't care what they call me Cary Mar 2017 #108

I have found that it is typically very intolerant people that worry about what Blue_true Mar 2017 #122

Those aren't radical ideas... Orsino Mar 2017 #78

Well, I know I didn't see the other thread.... Hortensis Mar 2017 #91

There is more to it than the ideas stated. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #94

There are some who still think the Dems can only win through moderation. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2017 #79

Moderation BainsBane Mar 2017 #106

I was called a crazy liberal on Facebook katmondoo Mar 2017 #80

All sounds good to me! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2017 #83

In practice, the distinction is less ideological BainsBane Mar 2017 #84

"If you don't drink the Boone's Farm I brought to your wine tasting brer cat Mar 2017 #95

K&R.. a badge of honor. spanone Mar 2017 #86

Radical left is defined by behavior, not beliefs. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #90

I understand your point. But I would argue that no one Exilednight Mar 2017 #99

You can't be serious? BainsBane Mar 2017 #105

Yes, that was a truly amazing comment from a "liberal" Cary Mar 2017 #110

You might want to look again. Exilednight Mar 2017 #115

Most of those EOs BainsBane Mar 2017 #136

two quick questions for you. Exilednight Mar 2017 #149

What is your point? BainsBane Mar 2017 #159

Answer the question and you will see my point. Exilednight Mar 2017 #160

Your point is illogical BainsBane Mar 2017 #161

IF Obama had even issued this order 60 days earlier Exilednight Mar 2017 #166

Justice Souter's comments on democracy apply here BainsBane Mar 2017 #162

You admire the swiftness of which Trump has enacted his policies? Cary Mar 2017 #109

Are you eight? Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #124

You make a lot of assumptions that aren't bases in reality. Exilednight Mar 2017 #133

Then why even post this? BainsBane Mar 2017 #139

... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #144

I notice your omission of sowing discord and discontent Cary Mar 2017 #167

Everyone makes assumptions. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #174

That crowd doesn't deserve the designation of radical leftist BainsBane Mar 2017 #138

They are too self-absorbed Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #176

And self BainsBane Mar 2017 #177

there is NOTHING to admire about what Trump has done. fuck that, and i don't consider you far left JI7 Mar 2017 #163

That's it exactly Cary Mar 2017 #111

Isn't "Radical Left" is a RW dog whistle? G_j Mar 2017 #96

Can I be too? yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #100

Radical left. Turbineguy Mar 2017 #101

I'm not scared vlyons Mar 2017 #102

+1 LOL Lib Mar 2017 #103

The centrists are scared. Rex Mar 2017 #104

Move on, please Cary Mar 2017 #112

No thanks, deal with it? Rex Mar 2017 #126

I am dealing with it. Cary Mar 2017 #169

Keep on working for a 9 Scalia SC. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #125

Like I said to the last guy, deal with it or not. Rex Mar 2017 #127

You aren't even in shouting distance of reality. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #131

Wow you sound so self-righous with all that. Rex Mar 2017 #156

Stung a little. Didn't it? Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #175

Oh, Hell BillyBobBrilliant Mar 2017 #114

Radical lefty here, as well. warmfeet Mar 2017 #116

Did you stay home on election day? Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #128

I voted for Hillary. warmfeet Mar 2017 #178

Then I would't call you Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #179

Agreed. warmfeet Mar 2017 #180

Yep. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #181

All those things would apply to almost everyone here. So what would make someone pnwmom Mar 2017 #117

Me too but I consider myself centrist! TNLib Mar 2017 #120

She always votes for communists... oldcynic Mar 2017 #121

Your positions are just common sense mvd Mar 2017 #137

I'd say, THANKS for noticing! Marthe48 Mar 2017 #143

Me too! BlueJac Mar 2017 #145

There's a three pronged debate going on TSIAS Mar 2017 #148

I agree with every one of those positions, and I support the right to keep and N77VG Mar 2017 #150

Bear Arms. warmfeet Mar 2017 #151

ROFL!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2017 #155

LOL n/t oldcynic Mar 2017 #158

Guilty colsohlibgal Mar 2017 #157

no, you are not, but those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary still_one Mar 2017 #164

Hey, I've been permanently branded as a neocon Pentagon shill Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #168

EVERYONE at DU supports those positions. I doubt anyone attacked you emulatorloo Mar 2017 #171