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mahatmakanejeeves

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14. Good G*d, what a load of self-serving crap.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:56 AM
Jun 2012

Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:52 AM - Edit history (2)

Shall we continue quoting from that article?

Among the presidents, this strain gave us both Roosevelts, Woodrow Wilson, John F. Kennedy, and Poppy Bush -- nerdy, wonky intellectuals who, for all their faults, at least took the business of good government seriously.


Woodrow Wilson was a notorious white supremacist.

http://postalmuseum.si.edu/AfricanAmericanHistory/p5.html
The History and Experience of African Americans in America’s Postal Service

Woodrow Wilson: Federal Segregation

During Woodrow Wilson’s 1912 presidential campaign, he promised African Americans advancement. He stated, “Should I become President of the United States, [Negroes] [sic] may count upon me for absolute fair dealing and for everything by which I could assist in advancing the interests of their race in the United States.”(1) Believing in his promise, many African Americans broke their affiliation with the Republican Party and voted for Wilson. He did not, however, fulfill the promises he made during the campaign to the African American community during his presidency. Less than a month after his March 4, 1913 inauguration,(2) President Wilson’s Administration took the first steps towards segregating the federal service.

The question of federal segregation was first discussed in high administration circles at a closed cabinet meeting on April 11, 1913.(3) At the Cabinet meeting Postmaster General Albert S. Burleson argued for segregating the Railway Mail Service. He was disturbed by whites and African Americans working in the Railway Mail Service train cars. The workers shared glasses, towels, and washrooms.(4) He said segregation was in the best interest of the African American employees and in the best interest of the Railway Mail Service.(5) Burleson’s ultimate goal was not only to make the railway lines “lily white”(6) but to segregate all government departments.(7) President Wilson replied to Burleson by saying that he had made “no promises in particular to Negroes [sic], except to do them justice.”(8) He argued that he “wished the matter adjusted in a way to make the least friction”.(9) While President Wilson expressed no direct objections to Burleson’s segregation plans, support came primarily from other cabinet members.

Shortly after the April 11 cabinet meeting, cabinet members Treasury Secretary William G. McAdoo and Postmaster General Albert S. Burleson segregated employees in their departments with no objection from President Wilson.(10) Segregation was quickly implemented at the Post Office Department headquarters in Washington, D.C. Many African American employees were downgraded and even fired. Employees who were downgraded were transferred to the dead letter office, where they did not interact with the public. The few African Americans who remained at the main post offices were put to work behind screens, out of customers’ sight.(11)

The segregation implemented in the Department of Treasury and the Post Office Department involved not only screened-off working spaces, but separate lunchrooms and toilets. Other steps were taken by the Wilson Administration to make obtaining a civil service job more difficult. Primary among these was the requirement, begun in 1914, that all candidates for civil service jobs attach a photograph to their application(12) further allowing for discrimination in the hiring process.


Hey, no problem, he knew best, and it was all for my own good. If only I were his intellectual equal, I would know better.

Talk about whitewashing. Lord, save me from my intellectual superiors.

And please pass me some o' them grits.

Wait - I just have to add this:

http://postalmuseum.si.edu/AfricanAmericanHistory/p6.html
The History and Experience of African Americans in America’s Postal Service

1920’s–1930’s: Coming Back Together

A shift from federal segregation to desegregation came in the early 1920’s under Republican administrations. The number of African Americans employed in the Post Office Department (POD) began to increase during President Warren G. Harding’s Administration (1921-1923).(1) By 1928, it was estimated that African Americans made up 15 to 30 percent of postal employees in major post offices.(2)

The status of African Americans postal employees continued to improve during the 1920’s and 1930’s. In 1925, the First Assistant Postmaster General, J. H. Bartlett, attended a meeting of African American postal workers. In a formal address, Bartlett discussed the “The Value of the Negro [sic] to the Postoffice.”(3) In his address, Bartlett encouraged African Americans to take advantage of the opportunities available to them through employment with the POD. He stated that of the 46,739 city letter carriers in the United States, 2,400 were African American and pointed out that many African American men had just been appointed to supervisory positions in New York and Chicago post offices.(4)

Opportunities for African Americans for advancement within the Post Office Department continued under President Herbert Hoover and his Postmaster General, Walter F. Brown. At the fifth biennial convention of the National Alliance of Postal Employees (later NAPFE), the Second Assistant Postmaster General, on behalf of Brown, emphasized to the convention attendants that Postmaster General had the “concept of a fair deal for all.”(5)

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Bush family are carpetbaggers RobertEarl Jun 2012 #29
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You miss the point RainDog Jul 2012 #123
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"They hate us for our freedoms" was the truest example of kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #105
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K & R . . . an important passage from this article: HughBeaumont Jun 2012 #4
That paragraph NAILS it Tsiyu Jun 2012 #16
They should be labeled for what they are: American Terrorists! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #39
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Slavery by Another Name mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2012 #20
Wow. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2012 #61
PBS did a video: Slavery By Another Name RainDog Jun 2012 #67
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we're all complicit RainDog Jun 2012 #77
you don't see it in europe as much because they're more populated than the us -- and because HiPointDem Jun 2012 #79
true RainDog Jun 2012 #80
people who live in western cities don't personally exploit others (unless they do). what you mean HiPointDem Jun 2012 #83
by saying it's not personal choices RainDog Jun 2012 #84
collective action has nothing to do with personal shopping choices. and the "average person is HiPointDem Jun 2012 #85
I see that people get out in the street RainDog Jun 2012 #86
in general, it's not that significant there either. in france (the country i'm most familiar with) HiPointDem Jun 2012 #87
I beg to differ RainDog Jun 2012 #88
i said "on the ascendant". perhaps you haven't been following recent elections. the error is to HiPointDem Jun 2012 #89
think what you will RainDog Jun 2012 #95
It's not what I or they "know" it's what the hard evidence demonstrates: votes such as the HiPointDem Jun 2012 #96
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The Europeans who came to the American continent were not Americans RainDog Jul 2012 #118
I understand your point and agree with it. I would merely point out that slavery began coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #119
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In my younger days, bvar22 Jun 2012 #57
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lol, well maybe.. antigone382 Jul 2012 #99
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I kept watching the radar last night Tsiyu Jul 2012 #113
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Yep... antigone382 Jul 2012 #100
no argument here. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #107
Just out of curiosity, what's your take on John Brown? Today, he coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #116
I sorta thought this line was key - sadly enough hfojvt Jun 2012 #41
Lincoln was wrong when he said "malice towards none". Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #51
And whether the promise was true or not of '40 acres and a mule' the plantations should have been... freshwest Jun 2012 #65
wow - my friend and I were just discussion this topic. Thanks for posting. myrna minx Jun 2012 #6
If you want to know why the working-class whites prefer "Massa's plantation" DinahMoeHum Jun 2012 #7
The early Barbados connection with South Carolina JohnyCanuck Jun 2012 #8
The brutal culture that was the first to secede in the Civil War Kolesar Jun 2012 #17
50,000 "Redleg" Irish Slaves were deported to Barbados by Cromwell from 1649-1660 leveymg Jun 2012 #44
who knew? grasswire Jul 2012 #106
Excellent points to discuss northoftheborder Jun 2012 #9
k&r Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #10
In other words TomClash Jun 2012 #11
Excellent article. aaaaaa5a Jun 2012 #12
A pretty devastating summary of American policy right now: woo me with science Jun 2012 #13
Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2012 #40
Good G*d, what a load of self-serving crap. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2012 #14
Odd that they would put WW in that list. He was Southern-born and -raised: eppur_se_muova Jun 2012 #47
that should clue us in that the author hasn't taken much trouble with her article. just bs. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #72
Woodrow "History written in lightning" Wilson was a notorious racist Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #102
The Roosevelts made their first fortune in sugar -- using slave workers. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #71
Seems to be a tad bit of an oversimplification mmonk Jun 2012 #15
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I really take issue with the argument that the problem is the wrong set of elites taking power. antigone382 Jun 2012 #25
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It's easy to be one when you can't drink the water in your own community... antigone382 Jun 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #34
The fundamental premise of the article is that the wrong elites are in power. antigone382 Jun 2012 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #36
The problem is with elites. Period. antigone382 Jun 2012 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #46
I grew up here. Do you want to tell me you know more about it than I do? antigone382 Jun 2012 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #52
Exactly. n/t antigone382 Jun 2012 #53
looking at the elites in power (the ones who let us see them, at any rate), they seem a pretty HiPointDem Jun 2012 #75
Is there a wrong elite? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2012 #94
In a way the wrong elites are in power. There should be no elites in power. Sirveri Jun 2012 #60
+1 antigone382 Jul 2012 #101
+1. it's because the northern elites exploited first and exploited more thoroughly that they got HiPointDem Jun 2012 #73
I was thinking the same thing. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2012 #93
I agree. The Northern elites were nothing to write home about either. bemildred Jun 2012 #37
Yes, that's really my only complaint about this whole article. antigone382 Jun 2012 #45
I'm thinking... DocMac Jun 2012 #55
There ya go. bemildred Jun 2012 #58
I don't know how people remember her, DocMac Jun 2012 #62
"Only the little people pay taxes..." nt bemildred Jun 2012 #63
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Fantastic post. I love how the bigotry, racism and ignorance of the North are somehow minimized Number23 Jul 2012 #104
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Because we let them. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2012 #91
General Sherman didn't burn enough, it seems. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #18
Outside South Carolina Sherman may have not burned anything (or very little). ieoeja Jun 2012 #24
Everything I've read says Sherman wanted to destroy the Planter Aristocracy Odin2005 Jun 2012 #64
It's not just about the elites SpartanDem Jun 2012 #26
The problem I have with such simplifications malthaussen Jun 2012 #27
Yep, and MTR pretty much turns your entire town into one big coal mine... antigone382 Jun 2012 #30
A variation on the "Cowboy Capitalists versus the Eastern Establishment" analysis of the 1960s. leveymg Jun 2012 #28
+1 Junkdrawer Jun 2012 #92
This is a fantastic article Aerows Jun 2012 #33
Interesting points. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #38
KICK. NT Phhhtttt Jun 2012 #42
Remnants of the Great Awakening, as well. RainDog Jun 2012 #48
The old Yankee establishment, as a whole, did hifiguy Jun 2012 #49
Interesting article treestar Jun 2012 #54
This ties into Rmoney saying people should get the education they can afford: treestar Jun 2012 #56
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riiight. the nice yankees who gave us the ludlow massacre, among others. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #90
The Old Guard in South Carolina long for the plantation days. Lint Head Jun 2012 #78
And the irony is that most of them would have been staring at the ass end of a mule from sunup to... Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #103
The author makes some mighty big leaps of logic in this article. Bette Noir Jun 2012 #81
Evangelicals are strongest in Riverside and Orange Counties, altho coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #117
I hate Southern GOP assh*les as much as anyone DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #82
Reminds me of a different article... backscatter712 Jun 2012 #97
Found it - the Scots-Irish roots of fundamentalism! backscatter712 Jul 2012 #111
Slightly racist XemaSab Jul 2012 #124
Slavery may have been abolished but not the slave owner's mindset. moondust Jun 2012 #98
I don't know about this. It looks like Wall Street is blaming the south again. I don't buy it. yardwork Jul 2012 #112
and there isn't much that is conservative about fascists fascisthunter Jul 2012 #122
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