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erronis

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32. Wow - great series of comments, Alice11111 (5?)

Thu Mar 9, 2017, 08:14 PM

Mar 2017

I think the real medical professionals expect there will be a move towards payment based on value rendered.

It is only the medical "industry" that wants their money up-front (insurance).

It seems totally strange that the US makes medical insurance a "benefit" of employment. It really wasn't too long ago that most of us talked to the doctor and hospital about how much the procedure would cost. Now it is an opaque quid-pro-quo between these corporate behemoths that actually have no interest in us getting better.

"Worser, slower" - that could be the motto for for healthcare in the republican world. Of course, all semblance of caring would end when the bank account was drained.

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Mark Cuban's Healthcare Fix: We Need a Single-Payer System [View all] Kaotic Mar 2017 OP

No need for health insurance companies AT ALL. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1

Right! Only To make the rich richer and the poor poorer Alice11111 Mar 2017 #8

You are conditioned to accept certaing things as normal. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #11

Right, but we have the greatest health care in the world, Alice11111 Mar 2017 #14

What kind of thinking? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #18

We were never a pure capitalist country anyway. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #19

I'd like to dance on the grave of the health insurance business model.... mike_c Mar 2017 #2

May I have this dance? Alice11111 Mar 2017 #9

Perfect solution for 45's "I'll do it better and cheaper." Hortensis Mar 2017 #3

Costs WILL NOT go down while the Insurance industry is involved... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #4

This plan would shift the burden of the most expensive treatments to a non-profit gov't program Kaotic Mar 2017 #5

More government control could reduce the amount spent on those things scscholar Mar 2017 #21

The middle man sucking $$ from both ends...patients & Alice11111 Mar 2017 #7

We have gov't run defense, law enforcement & judicial system to protect citizens... Kaotic Mar 2017 #13

For sure. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #16

Sad. But we ARE being taken over be Russia. madinmaryland Mar 2017 #22

They are facilitating it, because of the deals they made, Alice11111 Mar 2017 #24

Other countries manage to do it. alarimer Mar 2017 #6

Taxes are part of it metalbot Mar 2017 #12

I'm sure if implementation took, say, 10 years they would have time to switch those funds. alarimer Mar 2017 #15

As it is, many insurance companies are in the Medicare TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #26

Insurance could be like schools, as it is in other countries. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #27

Single Payer is also not the only option. alarimer Mar 2017 #38

I agree. There are other options, andMedicare expansion, Alice11111 Mar 2017 #40

DURec leftstreet Mar 2017 #10

What do you mean "chronic"? What is "life-threatening"? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2017 #17

Paul Ryan wallows in that shit. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #28

The health insurance industry will never stand for it. mn9driver Mar 2017 #20

People complain about insurance industry jobs that will be lost kacekwl Mar 2017 #23

The Insurance industry played ball which is why Obamacare passed. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #33

Agree, unless we can get our toe in with a public option... Alice11111 Mar 2017 #29

Wow - great series of comments, Alice11111 (5?) erronis Mar 2017 #32

Thank you. "Caring will end when the bank account Alice11111 Mar 2017 #34

Looks like somebody's got Presidentitis March 4th Mar 2017 #25

He can be a hot head but he's actually quite smart having come up from nothing he has a big clue NotThisTime Mar 2017 #36

We need single payer. warmfeet Mar 2017 #30

Actually, the USA got alzheimers. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #35

Too true, unfortunately. warmfeet Mar 2017 #41

Hope, the people, the press, and for a bit, the courts, Alice11111 Mar 2017 #42

I don't give up, warmfeet Mar 2017 #43

"There would be no individual penalties." - I'm pretty sure if you didn't pay your taxes there'd be PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #31

Single Payer System is the best ever. It is what we have in Canada and it works well. akbacchus_BC Mar 2017 #37

Are any Canadians taking in Americans? Alice11111 Mar 2017 #44

Why Mention Taxes, Mark? ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #39

They like the phrase "tax benefit" or "tax deduction" Alice11111 Mar 2017 #45

We had one proposed in 2009. Anyone remember that? Initech Mar 2017 #46