Why have some decided the only way to improve the party

[JCanete]

154. They are not. They are focusing on the class warfare being waged on all of us. Yes, the white middle

class is being bribed and manipulated into supporting interests that are not even good for most of them. Focusing on getting them to see that kind of seems important, since they represent a huge fucking chunk of our American population, and they breed.

If we fight against the pawns and not the power, we are not helping people of color or anybody but the 1 percent. All Sanders has done was attempt to Judo the language already familiar in that bubble towards getting them to see that they are being played. He has not once appealed to the twisted ignorance that is pervasive in these circles. He has tried to dismantle it, starting from the very real understanding that even people who do vile things are people and that often, they do them because they think they are doing good according to some fucked up sense of who the evil doers and good guys are--that is a reality built up on falsehoods fed to them. Showing them that that shit is being fed to them makes a whole lot more sense than trying to appeal to any-fucking-body by just telling them that they are evil vile deplorables. And how do you think that messaging works for the next generation of "evil vile deplorables" who love their parents and their family and friends? Do you think that helps them to see the light? Do you think that is a bridge extended for them to cross over?


You may not see it, but you are constructing straw-men...or show me what I don't see. Where is he trying to actually promote conservative interests? Where is he trying to roll back rights or vilify populations, or "get harsh on crime" or say "all lives matter" or any other bullshit that is the pandering of the age and ages past? I have a feeling you are going to come up empty here, but I've been wrong before.

As to whether or not Sanders is tough enough on the media himself...he is absolutely not. He does mention that the media is owned by mega-corporations and that that affects their messaging, but then he goes on their shows and thanks them for tackling an important issue. I don't think the praise is that valuable. I think we can be pleasant but harsh in our criticism of the media to its face, and should be. But I get that no single person can do it. The party has to do it, but our leadership has no intention of doing so.