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BainsBane

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67. Case in point.

Sun Mar 12, 2017, 09:44 PM

Mar 2017

Emails in May and June expressing frustration that the candidate who already lost had not dropped out is not "thumbs on the scale", but the Russians convinced his supporters it swung the primary. I see comments on Twitter all the time insisting the nomination was stolen from Bernie. That is the success of Russian propaganda.

The Russians are adept at convincing people what that want to believe. That is how they convinced some Sanders supporters to work against Clinton. It's also why they paid Jill Stein through RT. It was all part of an effort to undermine democracy and usher in white nationalism under Trump in order to weaken liberal alliances between the US and Europe, just as they are doing not now throughout Europe by promoting national front parties there.

Kurt Eichenwald wrote about this in Nov, but many refuse to be examine the evidence. The Russians thumbs were far more powerful and pervasive than the impotent DNC.
http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

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The Bernie Sanders Campaign Faced A Fake News Tsunami. Where Did It Come From? [View all] still_one Mar 2017 OP

...yeah, Bernie's campaign was the one done in by fake news... Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #1

That's not what the article says. Not at all. It's about Sanders FB pages getting trolled KittyWampus Mar 2017 #4

It does sort of make it sound like Bernie WhiteTara Mar 2017 #7

they changed the headline-- original was misleading Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #65

Where is the evidence for your 2nd statement, please. And what specific "obsession" are you JudyM Mar 2017 #39

Read the article BainsBane Mar 2017 #56

Yep - I'll guarantee it happened on Stein sites too. It needs to all come out. nt pkdu Mar 2017 #2

You talking about the Jill Stein who was seated at the same Vladimir Putin banquet table calimary Mar 2017 #23

Yes that Jill Stein...and this one.. pkdu Mar 2017 #26

Jill Stein was/is a Putin Troll also JI7 Mar 2017 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #68

It was disgusting ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #3

K&R sheshe2 Mar 2017 #5

We saw exactly this on DU. yardwork Mar 2017 #6

This site was overrun with it wysi Mar 2017 #50

Yep - the fake news was aimed at Bernie supporters, and so many took the bait. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2017 #51

I was saying some of the anti-hillary posts were not true Bernie supporters. I said they were paid. applegrove Mar 2017 #8

Keeping the Bernie and Hillary camps at eachother's throats was just... Beartracks Mar 2017 #11

Oh the trouble makers were doing a practice run on feminism and racism as beta tests applegrove Mar 2017 #17

And a lot of the anti-Bernie posts, to this day, on this site are paid, too. TransitJohn Mar 2017 #22

I do not see the same level of propaganda directed at Bernie than was applegrove Mar 2017 #25

it was anti hillary propaganda directed at Sanders supporters JI7 Mar 2017 #28

Which resulted in many real Bernie supporters jumping in and slurring Hillary with the same false applegrove Mar 2017 #30

That's bullshit. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #44

That's demonstrably untrue. Many DUers bought & spread it. JPR folks stevenleser Mar 2017 #48

I remember one mercuryblues Mar 2017 #52

Sorry, can't type. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #72

Whataboutism won't help your wrong contention be right. Almost a nice try. nt stevenleser Mar 2017 #78

Oh Yes there was. fun n serious Mar 2017 #53

Um....one highly-respected DUer peddled the shit that Bill Clinton was a pedophile. msanthrope Mar 2017 #82

As a person who cohosted with you, I strongly disagree. yardwork Mar 2017 #84

Wrong. kcr Mar 2017 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #69

Please direct us to who would pay for anti-Bernie posts. I'll save you the trouble stevenleser Mar 2017 #79

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #36

K&R brer cat Mar 2017 #9

Makes sense. If you were working to elect Trump, you'd certainly want... Beartracks Mar 2017 #10

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #37

The truth needs to come out. butdiduvote Mar 2017 #12

I saw plenty of abuse coming from both sides here on the DU and the Bernie and Hillary forums cstanleytech Mar 2017 #21

Not just in past tense here, either. JudyM Mar 2017 #40

Aye, its why I still avoid them because as I said the hosts dont really do anything to reign it in cstanleytech Mar 2017 #71

Absolutely. Ligyron Mar 2017 #45

That's another whataboutism response that avoids the issue of the election that gave us Trump and stevenleser Mar 2017 #80

They must not have seen what happened to aclinton over the last thirty years. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #13

Wonder what the DU handles were??? Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #14

Sad that people lapped that stuff up like gospel. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #15

K and R BadgerMom Mar 2017 #16

K&R betsuni Mar 2017 #18

God Damn you fucking Russians for sowing discord... SHRED Mar 2017 #19

They sure did. calimary Mar 2017 #24

Plenty of discord continues to be sown here. We can't put it behind us if some keep ripping it open. JudyM Mar 2017 #42

God damn the ones who couldn't put that aside and unite behind the nominee. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #27

many of them are the same ones who shit on Obama during his presidency JI7 Mar 2017 #31

Yes....the concern trolling of the President was merely a racist precedent msanthrope Mar 2017 #32

K & R FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #20

Interesting point in this article: Those pro-Bernie people who pointed this out were shunned oberliner Mar 2017 #33

Yes they were. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #35

JI7 above is a prime example of someone who at one point said, wait a minute stevenleser Mar 2017 #49

True, but she then got derailed here also Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #54

Yes but we don't know why. We know why she was bundled off JPR and attacked by other Bernie fans. nt stevenleser Mar 2017 #81

exactly... I saw this in action myself to a lesser degree Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #66

Some of them are still delusional. Look at what Tim Canova tweeted seaglass Mar 2017 #34

Sour grapes. BainsBane Mar 2017 #57

Sanders supporters are way tuned-in to be fooled by fake news... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #38

Disagree. It's reporting a factual investigation. It may raise discomfort but we ought to be able JudyM Mar 2017 #41

Have you seen JPR? BainsBane Mar 2017 #58

No, I don't go to JPR... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #61

That the primary was stolen from Bernie BainsBane Mar 2017 #63

Well, the DNC did... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #64

Case in point. BainsBane Mar 2017 #67

I'm bookmarking the OP so I can reference this comment. betsuni Mar 2017 #73

You don't have to look far BainsBane Mar 2017 #75

Happy that my closest Bernie friends .... LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #76

The millions more who voted for Hillary in the primary had nothing to do with the DNC stevenleser Mar 2017 #87

Well, it really is to bad that.... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #89

Agreed, but she faced two different kinds of election fraud and still won the popular vote. stevenleser Mar 2017 #91

Absolutely correct... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #92

And i do not believe Hillary was a "terrible" candidate but she was painted as one. nikibatts Mar 2017 #60

There were two kinds of election fraud perpetrated against her and she still won the popular vote stevenleser Mar 2017 #85

Kick and Rec LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #43

Indeed. warmfeet Mar 2017 #46

Yup Leith Mar 2017 #47

Two things BainsBane Mar 2017 #59

I worked with former Sanders' voters who volunteered lapucelle Mar 2017 #77

K&R Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #55

Huh who would have known? 4bucksagallon Mar 2017 #62

You worked hard to avoid the point of the article BainsBane Mar 2017 #74

Lots of folks don't want to take responsibility for being duped by Russian engineered agitprop. stevenleser Mar 2017 #83

If they don't face it BainsBane Mar 2017 #86

If Bernie had been nominated, the "fake news" would have been replaced by REAL oppo... brooklynite Mar 2017 #88

I noticed this during the election Dopers_Greed Mar 2017 #70