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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
24. A FEDERAL balanced-budget amendment might get state support
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:45 AM
Mar 2017

It's not much of an oversimplification to say that the public wants lower taxes, more spending on the programs they like, and a balanced budget. Congress can't balance the budget without raising unpopular taxes and/or cutting popular spending.

State legislators who pick delegates to a ConCon and then vote on whether to ratify an amendment are under no such constraint. They can get the best of both worlds. "See, I'm for fiscal rectitude, I voted for the balanced-budget amendment!" It then falls to someone else to implement it, with resulting loss of popularity.

In the ultimate irony, a Senator or Congressmember who votes for the unpopular measures needed to balance the budget might then be successfully challenged by a state legislator who voted for the amendment that forced that unpopular action.

I can't see ratification by 3/4 of the states for something like outlawing abortion. The 13 most liberal states could block it. I also think Wolf-PAC's efforts are wrong, because the 13 most conservative states could block an amendment to overturn Citizens United. The balanced budget, however, wouldn't be strictly liberal-versus-conservative, but would also be state-versus-federal. I can see quite a few Democratic state legislators voting for it.

I realize it's not just a clean break teezy Mar 2017 #1
MN can be part of Canada I suppose Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #8
I'm outta here if they do world wide wally Mar 2017 #2
Thom Hartmann is affiliated with RT and is thus a Putin mouthpiece. Foamfollower Mar 2017 #3
I may be the most naive person on the planet, but I have listened to Thom for years and do not belie OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #5
I listened to both he and Ed Schultz for years Foamfollower Mar 2017 #12
What! No way Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #11
He sold out to RT Foamfollower Mar 2017 #13
Pls. show an accurate source for that comment. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #14
RT Foamfollower Mar 2017 #15
Interesting..... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #16
RT is Russian state owned media, Foamfollower Mar 2017 #17
"Thus?" Really? You're trying to gull the wrong people here. Judi Lynn Mar 2017 #20
RT is Russian government and controlled media Foamfollower Mar 2017 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2017 #4
They are rewritting our laws right now edhopper Mar 2017 #6
They've been chipping away at it since Reagan The Big Ragu Mar 2017 #9
If they are even bdamomma Mar 2017 #10
The premise is to open the Constitutional convention for a balanced budget amendment. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #21
The Chutzpah Is strong with these Dumbfucks. n/t Virtual Burlesque Mar 2017 #7
They would need ratification from 3/4ths of the states. I don't see that happening. n/t pnwmom Mar 2017 #18
How many state legislatures do they control? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #22
A FEDERAL balanced-budget amendment might get state support Jim Lane Mar 2017 #24
It would take a war or two before that happens. Initech Mar 2017 #19
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