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BlueWI

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91. Agreed.

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 08:13 PM

Mar 2017

Even Obama himself says that the signature legislation was not promoted well enough.

Take one example - the regulation specifying that 80 percent of premium payments must be used for medical care and not overhead. This was a great cost containment measure. Who knew about it, beyond the most dedicated news junkies? By 2010, many Dems were already running away from the ACA and there was no national effort that I could see to get momentum and define the issue to the benefit of Democrats

Beyond Hope and Change that was simple enough to be meme-friendly and suggestive enough to motivate a lot of voters, the messaging in the national campaigns has been consistently substandard. Why not go to a few campuses and have a logo contest and use the winning logo in your campaign? The Sanders campaign had way more appealing messaging - even Feel the Bern - which is an additional reason why they made a big noise in the nominating season despite a late start. I hope the new DNC takes the challenge of effective messaging seriously.

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THEY SAID NO! [View all] NanceGreggs Mar 2017 OP

Thank you nancegreggs bdamomma Mar 2017 #1

You are one of my favorite posters. Really. Spot on. LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #2

+1000nt iluvtennis Mar 2017 #17

Damn straight we did and trump said NO Cha Mar 2017 #3

Me either. Unlike most of our politicians, some people still have ethics and notdarkyet Mar 2017 #14

Too many in this country have flushed GWC58 Mar 2017 #34

Hillary made a big mistake and was honest in telling voters in the Appalchian coal mining states maddiemom Mar 2017 #53

We could have done a better job of trying to bring them onboard... aikoaiko Mar 2017 #4

And/or we could have motivated the non-voting 30%. appal_jack Mar 2017 #74

Yes, but they needed to be louder about ACA flamingdem Mar 2017 #5

At what point ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #9

I said almost the same a little farther down, so I won't repeat. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #15

Exactly when can we stop trying to "educate" the proudly stupid? LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #29

Never. Why would you make some arbitrary cut-off where people either know shit or don't? JCanete Mar 2017 #69

This. BlueWI Mar 2017 #88

The White House & Congress both did poorly NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #56

Exactly, and just now a Rep from Kentucky was saying they are still learning that ACA is not flamingdem Mar 2017 #57

Agreed. BlueWI Mar 2017 #91

I think it's time to tell them to leave their bibles, hatred and gunz behind and let's elect Hoyt Mar 2017 #6

They said more than no. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #7

K&R... spanone Mar 2017 #8

Once again, you cut through all the bullshit and hit the exact target world wide wally Mar 2017 #10

K&R betsuni Mar 2017 #11

Yes, the Democratic message was great. I think the party didn't... Beartracks Mar 2017 #12

Their brains are damaged from fux news, fundamentalism and racism. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #13

Calling them "deplorable" is being too kind. Initech Mar 2017 #19

I am not inteested in blame. I am inerested in survival Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #16

well said. ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #48

As usual, spot on mvd Mar 2017 #62

Another good one! Initech Mar 2017 #18

Not in your list.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #20

They voted for Trump ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #24

This. Exactly. we can do it Mar 2017 #39

Oh, I agree on the jobs things. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #61

Agreed. Obama and Clinton support for trade deals past and present did not serve them well. BlueWI Mar 2017 #93

Spot. On. Hekate Mar 2017 #21

Thank you! Thekaspervote Mar 2017 #22

Nance- glad you're here. This "defective Democrats; failed candidate" crap doesn't resonate with me. NBachers Mar 2017 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Lyricalinklines Mar 2017 #25

Yes. It's still the RW propaganda machine that clouds the minds of those who Dems help. Kablooie Mar 2017 #26

As soon as you mentioned "working class", I knew I would be erased UncleTomsEvilBrother Mar 2017 #27

K&R. dchill Mar 2017 #28

Yes. LuvLoogie Mar 2017 #30

K&R. hillary ran a good campaign, but DesertFlower Mar 2017 #31

Another winner. we can do it Mar 2017 #40

and they dwelled on her mistakes treestar Mar 2017 #98

Kick. dalton99a Mar 2017 #32

The message was great. Getting it out was the problem. Warpy Mar 2017 #33

+ a bajillion!!!!!! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2017 #37

Yes. Time to stop kicking ourselves. we can do it Mar 2017 #41

This. BlueMTexpat Mar 2017 #35

We weren't running against "the Party that said no to everything..." brooklynite Mar 2017 #36

A simple consistent message of lies and hate. we can do it Mar 2017 #42

Yes, and that's an issue we need to deal with... brooklynite Mar 2017 #47

Simple and consistent? What are you smoking and can I have some? Adrahil Mar 2017 #45

Putin said NO Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #38

Short of an intervention on 40% of the electorate, I don't know how we're going to... Nitram Mar 2017 #43

Stay on message. Work on nonvoters. we can do it Mar 2017 #44

a lot of people want those good policies to be better translated into votes ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #46

"Hey, Democrats, let's win more elections" ProfessorPlum Mar 2017 #49

Great post Nance Gothmog Mar 2017 #50

Thank you, thank you, thank you! mcar Mar 2017 #51

The message certainly was not the problem Dem2 Mar 2017 #52

As usual, you speak for me, Nance!!!!! secondwind Mar 2017 #54

+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #55

This board should have NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #58

K&R liquid diamond Mar 2017 #59

I get your general points, and accept them, but ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #60

I always love your posts. You always remind us of the cold, hard truth amidst all of the noise. butdiduvote Mar 2017 #63

So, what are your ideas for Dems to win elections? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #64

100% Right on! gtar100 Mar 2017 #65

K&R brer cat Mar 2017 #66

Nance I have decided that you Must run for office! Seriously! flying_wahini Mar 2017 #67

Again, aside from the media and those types that want to be cow towed to, NOBODY wants us to cow-tow JCanete Mar 2017 #68

Thank you for NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #71

I don't think the party makes that as clear as you think it does, JCanete Mar 2017 #75

And who's refusing ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #78

They weren't told by comey. The media buries or lifts a story at its whims. At best Comey handed it JCanete Mar 2017 #80

If you're looking for someone ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #81

Okay, fair enough. It isn't that Comey had no influence, its just that he is but one man. If he had JCanete Mar 2017 #85

I think the reasons why ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #92

I agree with you that it isn't easy. but as you said, they think the way they do because JCanete Mar 2017 #103

Best. Post. Ever. ClusterFreak Mar 2017 #70

I agree with very much of this but Mountain Mule Mar 2017 #72

Bernie's "message" ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #73

be fair though, Sanders didn't have the machine behind him. by choice, and as far as the money goes, JCanete Mar 2017 #76

We both have to be careful here ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #86

I'm fine with leaving it at that, but your perspective here is certainly restricted to your own JCanete Mar 2017 #89

I've never alerted on anyone either ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #94

Bernie had plenty of money. And, to be fair, he raised it through an impressive campaign that StevieM Mar 2017 #100

there was machine in effect to ensure that clobbering. Having connections in the media and a whole JCanete Mar 2017 #102

Hmmmm... Mountain Mule Mar 2017 #79

Well spoken! caroldansen Mar 2017 #77

Totally agree Progressive dog Mar 2017 #82

Larger than the last election zipplewrath Mar 2017 #83

Thank you. ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #84

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2017 #87

I see you are NOT going to answer my question... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #90

So Dems had just the right message BlueWI Mar 2017 #95

Totally. calimary Mar 2017 #96

You hit this one out of the ballprk...AND the other posts too....n/t asuhornets Mar 2017 #97

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #99

I don't know. I think the 2016 election was all about a corrupt FBI. (eom) StevieM Mar 2017 #101