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The Velveteen Ocelot

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30. Sigh, no.

Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:41 AM

Mar 2017

I practiced trial and appellate law for 17 years so I kinda know about those things. But this isn't a trial; this isn't trial evidence; this isn't material to be used to impeach a witness. This is a journalist doing her job, collecting information, some of which might not seem important now. This 1040 form doesn't mean a whole lot by itself but its appearance, regardless where it might have come from, and the discussion surrounding it, resurrects the dormant issue of Trump's refusal to release his complete tax returns - which could contain information relevant to his connection with Russian businesses and God knows what else. It doesn't "vindicate" Trump in any way. Somebody, possibly Trump himself, gave David Cay Johnston that 1040, and he went to Rachel with it. Would you have expected them to just sit on it?

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There Has Been A Concerted Effort To Discredit Progressive Figures Like Maddow [View all] TomCADem Mar 2017 OP

UNFORTUNATELY prior to the election elleng Mar 2017 #1

Agree on all points. nt Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #6

That's funny because I thought she was so giddy about Sanders for a long time- bettyellen Mar 2017 #20

I have no recollection that she was 'giddy' about Senator Sanders at ANY time. Maybe respectful? elleng Mar 2017 #25

Definitely in December and January, yeah I had the distinct impression she favored him. bettyellen Mar 2017 #31

She favored the horse race, just like all the rest did. BannonsLiver Mar 2017 #44

without Governor O'Malley elleng Mar 2017 #46

Agree no one gave O Malley enough coverage. bettyellen Mar 2017 #48

You think? I thought too many liked when he bashed Dems and tried to make that the story... bettyellen Mar 2017 #47

She was until Sanders history with gays became and issue, after that it I thought she lost interest uponit7771 Mar 2017 #65

What? Not this meme again. SaschaHM Mar 2017 #51

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #55

Other candidates*. No, I remember O'Malley and his 1 delegate from Iowa. SaschaHM Mar 2017 #69

He got as much coverage as the msm wanted to give him, elleng Mar 2017 #70

Are there objective numbers on which candidates she spent more or less time on? LanternWaste Mar 2017 #71

Rachel devoted an entire hour of primetime TV to what was literally a non-story Azathoth Mar 2017 #2

Bingo. scheming daemons Mar 2017 #5

Nonsense. She resurrected the once-dormant issue of Trump's tax returns The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #10

She allowed Trump to put this issue to bed with the vast majority of his voters scheming daemons Mar 2017 #14

No, it did not work out favorably for him. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #19

Hmmm... fleabiscuit Mar 2017 #22

That's wishful thinking on Louise's part. scheming daemons Mar 2017 #26

And I find the thread title ironic. nt fleabiscuit Mar 2017 #40

Bullshit - half the show was about Russia. LOL bettyellen Mar 2017 #32

Sorry she spoiled your dream of "instant impeachment". oasis Mar 2017 #11

She helped Trump win a news cycle scheming daemons Mar 2017 #17

All I'm seeing today is how DT is hiding his taxes because Russia , HA ... bettyellen Mar 2017 #77

Uh- huh. If you watch her regularly, you will see she builds her case brick by brick... Hekate Mar 2017 #8

She is annoyingly repetitive and melodramatic when she is doing solid reporting Azathoth Mar 2017 #13

Too old for rose colored glasses of any sort, but I recognize brains and doggedness when I see them Hekate Mar 2017 #28

You call an entire hour on the Russian/Trump connection no story womanofthehills Mar 2017 #21

See, that's the thing Azathoth Mar 2017 #29

Tax returns from a president who has lied about being under audit ... JHan Mar 2017 #33

So, You Want A Split Screen Screamfest? TomCADem Mar 2017 #34

No, I'd like useful investigative reporting and evidence Azathoth Mar 2017 #64

That is only true if you ignore her very extended and thorough lead in to the returns, pnwmom Mar 2017 #54

The lead-in was good Azathoth Mar 2017 #60

I didn't view it that way. She made it clear that the 2 page summary didn't have the info pnwmom Mar 2017 #61

THIS IS FALSE ON ITS FACE !!!! I agree with MJ and the AMT issue Benedict Donald is pushing uponit7771 Mar 2017 #66

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #72

How was she putting her reputation in jeopardy? DesertRat Mar 2017 #73

Define "Ordinary" and "Unremarkable" Leith Mar 2017 #75

KnR Hekate Mar 2017 #3

David Cay Johnson gave the returns to Rachel BainsBane Mar 2017 #4

But it was Rachel's decision to hype them and devote an entire hour to them Azathoth Mar 2017 #9

It undermines nothing BainsBane Mar 2017 #12

She devoted an entire hour of primetime to a non-story that frankly vindicates Trump Azathoth Mar 2017 #16

"vindicates Trump" LMFAO. nt greyl Mar 2017 #43

I addressed the issue here BainsBane Mar 2017 #45

You're kidding yourself if you think Rachel isn't engaged in advocacy Azathoth Mar 2017 #52

LOL vindicates trump? leftynyc Mar 2017 #74

Disagree - Rachel put out tons of info and she was great womanofthehills Mar 2017 #24

I don't think that it's necessarily just those on "the left" who are griping The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #7

Sigh. No, it has nothing to do with being "impatient" Azathoth Mar 2017 #23

Sigh, no. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #30

Yup+++++ JHan Mar 2017 #35

This is just dishonest Azathoth Mar 2017 #49

It Was One Show of How Many? TomCADem Mar 2017 #37

It showed he lied about not being able to release them-but he won't release where the income comes bettyellen Mar 2017 #39

"It showed he lied about not being able to release them" Azathoth Mar 2017 #50

They leaked the taxes in response because they knew they were coming out... bettyellen Mar 2017 #57

No, they put out a press statement Azathoth Mar 2017 #58

I love Rachel vlyons Mar 2017 #15

Pointing out that she was on the wrong track and that she over hyped the returns before she grantcart Mar 2017 #18

No boo. RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #27

Rachel Maddow is one of the smartest people in broadcast journalism. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #36

Yes she should have sat on it. RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #62

Yet, You Respond to Post the Talking Point That She Got Baited... TomCADem Mar 2017 #38

No I don't. RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #63

So, You Are Attacking a Segment You Did Not Watch... TomCADem Mar 2017 #80

It does, doesn't it? mcar Mar 2017 #81

No smart guy. RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #82

Meh, Sounds Like Trolling With... TomCADem Mar 2017 #83

Incompetence should not be tolerated. RoadhogRidesAgain Mar 2017 #84

Yep. A half dozen threads in the last half hour BannonsLiver Mar 2017 #41

They are FLOODING this forum. ecstatic Mar 2017 #42

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #67

Plus her ratings have outdone Fox of late. GOP on the Discussionist applegrove Mar 2017 #53

Maybe people wouldnt be so pissed off at Maddow if brettdale Mar 2017 #56

I'm beginning to think there are a lot of TROLLS here!! Thekaspervote Mar 2017 #59

If one trusts COMCAST then one is a mark. AngryAmish Mar 2017 #68

I've forgiven her Bernie attacks. lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #76

Oh so THAT is what this is really about. Oh jeeze. It's been over almost a year and yet.... bettyellen Mar 2017 #78

that was then heaven05 Mar 2017 #79