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Exultant Democracy

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38. Have I missed the SEIU and AFL-CIO sitting on their hands?
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:09 PM
Mar 2017

The Democratic Party is the only party doing real grassroots activisms the last time I checked. We didn't lose the door knocking race, we lost the money race. Unfortunately for all of us our billionaire class isn't made up of our best and brightest, one Koch brother hardly managed to graduate high school. We actually need someone who will inspire the rich dicks who should be on our side to get involved. I would say look at CO as a micro example of what can be done, Jared Polis by power of charism built the money train that turned that state federally blue and deep purple at the state level.

I'll agree getting ride of Dean and hiring Rahm were the two worst moves Obama could have made to start out his term as far as health of the party and outreach go. However timing with the census was going to hurt no matter what. The good news is that the stars line up in 2020 and we have another 2006 brewing up for 2018. If the first Obama presidential election had been in 2010 and not a midterm we wouldn't be in half as much trouble today. But just like the stupid American electorate the calander is beyond our ability to change.

Should money decided who controls the state legislatures, no of course not, but it does. We have to play the ball where it lies. The demographics will tip our way soon, but not soon enough considering the state of climate change. Citizen United is the law of the land and that won't change until we win an election either. We have to win big in 2020 and cut the republicans off at the knees for 2022. No more Playing Mr. Nice Obama and not looking backwards once we get back into power, throwing the hard elbow is the only way forward.


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Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg... [View all] Heartstrings Mar 2017 OP
Interesting Me. Mar 2017 #1
I just found that out when I googled her...I didn't know that. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #4
Hugely Popular In Japan As Our Ambassador Me. Mar 2017 #9
There are no open seats right now unless she wants to run for Congress. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #60
Oh For Heaven's Sake Me. Mar 2017 #61
Just responding. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #73
Either one works for me but biased towards Joe. ATL Ebony Mar 2017 #2
She didn't do well in the Senate campaign some years back. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #3
Yeah it was such a non campaign many people have even forgotten about it. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #27
What I remember most about her run in NY mchill Mar 2017 #35
Exactly, poor speaker jodymarie aimee Mar 2017 #37
I doubt the Russians would help her. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #44
Compared to...?? nikibatts Mar 2017 #58
Absolutely not...we do not need to primary Dems in blue states...it is suicidal..agree completely. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #43
Yes, I remember that, and the many, many you knows. I was surprised that someone with her upbringing lunamagica Mar 2017 #50
lineage? WTF, seriously wtf. Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #5
You can be great. You can be wonderful. You can be all that is good. But you have to get elected. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #11
I think she is delightful, but dynasties are not democratic Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #16
You see, voting against a person due only to blood is, at its very best, irrational. LanternWaste Mar 2017 #45
The OP cited "exceptional lineage" my post is a response to that nonsense. Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #49
Absolutely. We need someone who will get elected. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #29
She was involved in the Magna Carta? DFW Mar 2017 #62
I'm referring to dynastic bullshit Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #64
Winner of the Martha Coakley Charisma Award BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #6
And Look Where Charisma Has Gotten Us Me. Mar 2017 #8
Look where lack of charisma has got us BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #10
Are You Referring To HRC Me. Mar 2017 #12
caroline doesnt have hrc appeal JI7 Mar 2017 #14
The Thing Is Me. Mar 2017 #17
we do know . her lack of appeal is why she had to drop kut JI7 Mar 2017 #42
like FDR losing his run as VP to Coolidge. LanternWaste Mar 2017 #47
And where did getting 3 million more informed voters get us? Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #18
I Don't Even Know How To Respond To This POst Me. Mar 2017 #19
Every data point we have says HRC voters were better eductated and informed Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #21
How many voters need to understand that you should not depend on a politician to "inspire" you .. JHan Mar 2017 #23
How many, at least 77k. Do we want to be right or do we want to win? Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #24
Most people on this board would agree with all that, you're preaching to the choir.. JHan Mar 2017 #26
Have I missed the SEIU and AFL-CIO sitting on their hands? Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #38
again you're pointing out things already agreed upon.. JHan Mar 2017 #41
You've gazed into the abyss a wee bit too long. LanternWaste Mar 2017 #48
Good job with the ad hominem. While your attacking me perosnally Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #51
you can't ignore the role of russian hack and comey JI7 Mar 2017 #46
Agreed, but it wasn't informed voters who were swayed Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #53
we don't need to pretend anything. the millions more she got is real JI7 Mar 2017 #56
Agree. We live in a sound bite world w short attention spans Alice11111 Mar 2017 #34
Exactly, we would have had POTUS' Gore and HRC in a real democracy Exultant Democracy Mar 2017 #54
Well said Alice11111 Mar 2017 #65
The last two Democrats who won the white house both came from obscure, middle class backgrounds. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #72
It got Obama in the White House for 8 years. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #28
The last President had a funny last name no one had heard of, and charisma out the wazoo. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #69
I saw her speak at an event once. Yavin4 Mar 2017 #7
No, no, no Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #13
I like the idea of Caroline, I just don't like the reality of Caroline. Happyhippychick Mar 2017 #15
NO. Most younger people don't remember & identify with the old Kennedy Charisma. crazylikafox Mar 2017 #20
I would like a non royal family candidate. hollowdweller Mar 2017 #22
I would like jodymarie aimee Mar 2017 #40
You say, "exceptional lineage" like it is a good thing. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #25
what's wrong with it ? ( Just curious) JHan Mar 2017 #30
I don't know that anything is WRONG with it, but it is not an attribute I would list Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #57
i hear you. agreed and... JHan Mar 2017 #59
I think whats wrong with it is the people who think we need a magic last name to win elections. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #71
Baggage free? milestogo Mar 2017 #31
I want candidates with "baggage" Means they are so strong for the people that the delisen Mar 2017 #32
No Hekate Mar 2017 #33
I'm sure she is a nice, respectable person, but would make a smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #36
Hmmmm. no. Almost zero, perhaps less than zero charisma. Doesn't make her bad Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #39
While I have great respect for many members of that family, and like Caroline, she just doesn't Fla Dem Mar 2017 #52
Can we please, please, please cut it out with the dynasties? n/t Orsino Mar 2017 #55
Absolutely not. kwassa Mar 2017 #63
In response Heartstrings Mar 2017 #66
As much as I like her marlakay Mar 2017 #67
Who you are related to is NOT a qualification Lee-Lee Mar 2017 #68
... Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #70
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