Keith Ellison getting thrown under the bus in T-minus 7...6...5...

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204. it was a heated time

I was a rarity here in that I really did not love either candidate. I think that allowed me a different perspective. Both sides were horrible at times, but once the race was over, a contingent would not accept the results and went to a place that is often misogynist and racist and has a good many trump supporters.

I think many in our party lack perspective and see things as black and white. The nation moved right in the 80's. And so did our party to remain relevant. We look back and despair the Clinton year because he 'sold out' so much. But had he run the same way Mondale or Dukakis did, he would have lost as bad as they did. The party has to lead, but we cannot lead those not willing to follow.

I think 2018 will be a historic opportunity. We may finally be able to espouse the kind of liberalism not seen since the 60's and have a chance to win. The health care thing is such a cluster fuck I am actually hearing some of my republican friends opining that perhaps we should just do what they have done in Europe and get it over with.