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Mr. Ected

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9. Yes, we were here on election day

Sat Mar 18, 2017, 06:29 AM

Mar 2017

Considering the gravity of the decisions that were being made that day, and the overwhelming turnout at the polls, you would never have known it. Life as usual in the Netherlands.

Our host had told us earlier that he didn't believe that the Dutch would opt for the far-right path, in spite of the fact that flames had been fanned. He said he had faith in his people to do the right thing. And he was proven correct.

I suspect that their coalition government would have dampened some of the impact, had Wilders carried the day. I also believe that America's experience with Trump was enough for many Dutch to pull their support from the PVV.

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My family and I are in Holland on a visit [View all] Mr. Ected Mar 2017 OP

I don't know...but it's so sad lisa58 Mar 2017 #1

Just Curious jaxind Mar 2017 #2

Yes, we were here on election day Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #9

I know how that feels. I had faith in my people to do the right thing, too. Silver Gaia Mar 2017 #15

We are the Un-United States of insatiable greed and unfortunately democratisphere Mar 2017 #3

You damage you thesis by referring to the "Russian and Putin communists." Putin and KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #20

Many Russians and Putin act like former communists. democratisphere Mar 2017 #32

Sigh They do NOT act like former communists (or current communists). The KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #33

Sure seems like Cold War 2.0 to me; Russians and Putin hacking everything democratisphere Mar 2017 #37

This Cold War v 2.0 to which you allude is happening between capitalist-imperialist KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #38

And don't forget starving 10 million Ukrainians to death... malchickiwick Mar 2017 #63

Funny how we NEVER hear about how many Americans died of starvation KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #66

I totally get what you're saying. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #53

Without commenting on your specific claims, I will simply note KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #67

Oh, I agree that anarchism and communism are the same. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #69

This is how my family does it madokie Mar 2017 #4

the paul slimey ryans and the creepy greedy vicious monster trumps Cha Mar 2017 #5

You are always so kind and insightful, Cha Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #10

Thank you, Mr. Ected.. you luckies! Cha Mar 2017 #12

Education? Scarsdale Mar 2017 #6

Thank you for sharing your story. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #7

We're staying in Delft, home of Vermeer and birthplace of my youngest son! Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #11

I must say I'm envious! I love to hear about other people's travels. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #14

Not to rain on your parade, but the Dutch have much to answer for for their KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #21

The Dutch East Indies dissolved in 1942 GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #26

Yeah, I get your point (I think). Here's a thought experiment for you: how much KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #30

I am from that other region you mention GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #35

I'll leave you to your weekend with a quote from the great French writer Honore KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #36

In my family's case... GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #40

I know, me too, smirky. Cha Mar 2017 #13

As a US expat lies Mar 2017 #8

The US era of global leadership has certainly been hurt by GW and now Trump Martin Eden Mar 2017 #16

The thing is.... lies Mar 2017 #18

Without a doubt, Europe has lost confidence in the US as "leader" of the Free World Martin Eden Mar 2017 #42

Wellll lies Mar 2017 #44

I've been quite disappointed in the US in my later years. I had thought the US would be much RKP5637 Mar 2017 #29

Melting pot vs. homogeneous populations. moondust Mar 2017 #17

Well stated... As in I agree dembotoz Mar 2017 #34

Because they're not patriots and they have no moral conscience (nt) bekkilyn Mar 2017 #19

A) gerrymandering B) electoral college C) Citizens United spooky3 Mar 2017 #22

we can. barbtries Mar 2017 #23

IT'S THE MEDIA sharedvalues Mar 2017 #24

This - and all the internet social media permutations MrPurple Mar 2017 #55

I was just in Bolivia. a la izquierda Mar 2017 #25

Too many white Americans GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #27

The Dutch avoided a far rightie recently but Id be interested to know if they think it will continue lunasun Mar 2017 #28

I think that once Trump, who is highly visible throughout the world, PatrickforO Mar 2017 #47

Generally...the European attitude is to lend a "helping hand". roamer65 Mar 2017 #31

Re that last question BSdetect Mar 2017 #39

Here's the response you get in America: CrispyQ Mar 2017 #41

They undermined it in the pledge of allegiance alwaysinflux Mar 2017 #43

as sad as this is to say, Europe is not safe from nut cases Hamlette Mar 2017 #45

Don't you perhaps mean The Netherlands just escaped? pangaia Mar 2017 #56

ah shit, what's the difference :) Hamlette Mar 2017 #61

All true.. pangaia Mar 2017 #62

...Why do the so-called patriots insist that America is an 'every man and woman for themselves' PatrickforO Mar 2017 #46

You should have asked the Dutch family how many political parties there are in Holland DFW Mar 2017 #48

You'll find this interesting: Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #49

Thank you for the time and effort to post this. Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #64

Thank you. I'm glad to share. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #68

America's unique view of poverty as a moral failing goes back to the pilgrims. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #50

I have 2 cousins who live in Holland. They said they will never come back to America SummerSnow Mar 2017 #51

Why can't we look out for each other in the USA? Here's why: singed.dude Mar 2017 #52

Please tell them (next time) that more of us Ilsa Mar 2017 #54

I know what you mean. MrScorpio Mar 2017 #57

Love Holland and felt.. zentrum Mar 2017 #58

There's so much hatred that many actually *want* others to suffer and die. Kablooie Mar 2017 #59

yeah. i know danish people AND i have been there twice. they are HAPPY. pansypoo53219 Mar 2017 #60

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